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  2. Alvaro Morata.

    If there's any truth in the media talk that AC Milan are after Morata, then I think that the club would be silly not to sell him to them. Take the money and run!
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  4. Conte, stay or go?

    Random jottings of hacks without a clue. There is far more sensible stuff on here to read. Even some of your stuff Bob.
  5. Conte, stay or go?

    ^^^^^^^^ Not aimed at you, Bob, but this is the sort of thing a 'journalist' writes when he has no insider knowledge and has to make something up to meet deadline. If they fire him, Chelsea will be up for hefty compensation? No shit, Sherlock. And then, Conte may take a year off! The Telegraph has become as bad as The Sun. Useless. Personally, I get the impression that Conte would like to stay and finish the job. Pointless though, if the club refuse to back him in the transfer market (and I'm not talking about money spent/to spend, but the players he actually wants in the positions he wants them..
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  7. Conte, stay or go?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/22/chelsea-face-hefty-compensation-package-antonio-conte-considers/
  8. Transfer Talk Topic

    So I gather - but it a 1 year loan + 4 year contract, amortised over 5 years. So the FFP terms are the same as a 5 year contract would be. PSG are unlikely to have any cash flow issues, though they may be planning even more exaggerated "commercial Deals". I see no FFP advantage here at all - but it might be they have another plan to finance the actual purchase after the year - perhaps with the Qatari backers buying and loaning him back, or buying his image rights. We'll have to wait to see what the FFP trick is. Being PSG, there may be not trick at all, just bluster. Edit: When PSG announce a deal like this, they know the first question will be "why doesn't this break FFP". That they have some bullshit statement that says the deal structure avoids FFP is no surprise. The only surprise would be if it worked.
  9. Transfer Talk Topic

    Mbappé to PSG is a loan with an obligation to buy, if only for accounting reasons.
  10. Thibaut Courtois

    Yep, doesn't come any better than that.
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  12. Conte, stay or go?

    Point taken, Il Duce, I confess I got twitchy around Chinese New Year wondering what he was going to do next. Something in the middle would be welcome. A cross between the dignity of the lion of Judah and the inscrutability of the Sphinx, perhaps, but with the odd snarl thrown in for good measure whenever Jose is around?
  13. Squad Status: 2018/2019 Season

    RLC also confirmed in an interview on TOCWS today that:
  14. Conte, stay or go?

    Nothing wrong at all with current behaviour in the dug out by Conte. What is wrong is the gap between the Stamford the lion impressions of last season and the lion of Trafalgar square impression this season.
  15. Conte, stay or go?

    Bob, you're unique .... however ..... at risk of doing a Daniel and entering the lion's den, frankly I rather like Conte and hope he stays. None of us has a clue what is the the mind of Roman A or his court, nor what Conte really means to do (probably just sabre rattling). I confess I'd prefer him to take a few risks with the press, and perhaps actually say something worthwhile - much as I loath Mourinho's outbursts, they are at least entertaining whereas the insights into Conte's opinions are pretty lacklustre. I'd also rather a return to crowd surfing (we'll never see Pellegrini do that - perish the thought) than the current dour performance in the dugout. And I'd certainly favour the sort of swashbuckling performance we got from the likes of Gianfranco, Didier and Costa than the anaemic performance we have seen of late (please shoot Morata, someone, it's the least he deserves - I'll forgive Giroud for the time being, at least he looks like he's trying). Except that the buccaneers had a defence that they could depend on. Hopefully that will change next year now that our defence is showing signs of coming together. Sort of. Oh, and a plan B which is more than just throwing a few assorted players on at the last moment like he did on Saturday. (I think I've just talked myself into ambivalence about the man.) Anyhow, looking on the bright side: at least we haven't got the living dead like the Arse or Emery (he'll always be Mandy in my mind - 'ooh, you are awful') like Spam, and neither Faria nor the FSW have been seen in the vicinity. Lets hope it stays that way.
  16. Thibaut Courtois

    I'm pretty sure that if we'd been able to keep Gallas for all of the 06/07 season, we'd have won at least 3 of the four trophies and not had to play our best player at centre-half in key games when JT/Riccy were injured.
  17. Thibaut Courtois

    I’m sure others must have said this, but if we had just kept Gallas.... Cech Gallas RC JT Ash Makelele We could probably have gone a season without conceding a goal. Just look at it!
  18. Conte, stay or go?

    You're new around here, aren't you? I know exactly what DWMH meant.
  19. Conte, stay or go?

    Well, not to start a pointless discussion that will entertain no one... But I think what Droy is saying is stating his opinions and presenting them in a rather blunt and assured manner. That Conte is on his way is hardly a controversial belief. Droy just happens to think that Conte is on his way because he is so good and someone better than us wants him, not because we think he is so bad that we sack him. Certainly the minority view at this stage but an interesting one nonetheless. Perhaps we should discuss that to hear everyones opinion? Wouldn't that be just a little bit more interesting than pointless personal punchlines? All said with the best intentions of course. I think the truth may lie somewhere in between. I don't think we mind seeing him go, and to be perfectly frank I think we wouldn't really have mind him go last season either. I think the club knew already then that he wasn't going to last long - but of course couldn't be seen to let go of a title-winning manager just weeks back. I'd be shocked to see him here next season. Then again he's clearly a good manager/coach that has a proven track-record in both England and Italy. He should be sought-after. There are three options really as I see it; 1) he joins a club he (in some way) had a deal with already 2) he takes a year off 3) he joins a club formally within the next few weeks If option one, and that club is a club higher up in our standing chances are that Droy was right. 2 or 3, most likely not. Option 4 he stays... At this stage the least likely option. I may very well be wrong, but that's my reading of the situation. How about you?
  20. Eden Hazard

    Thanks for a meaningful contribution to the forum.
  21. Eden Hazard

    Dream On
  22. Transfer Talk Topic

    As I understood it Salah's deal was an option, but not a free option. So EUR 5mn if they don't buy, EUR 20mn if they do - a very similar construction to the penalty clause you mentioned. Still an option though, because if he really did turn out rubbish they weren't forced to take him. The EUR 5mn fee would be taken up front as a cost in the first year, making the deal in P&L or FFP terms the same as a 4 year contract and a Eur 20mn fee. No FFP advantage, but perhaps other advantages, including cash flow (did Roma have cash issues?). Chelsea are famous for doing deals that help out the cash flow of the counter party. Most deals are half now, half in 1 year. We have usually paid 100% up front (we have an owner with better access to credit than most clubs).
  23. Eden Hazard

    I think there are so many exciting prospects in world football at the moment, that Eden is not top priority for the best clubs anymore. Both Griezmann and Icardi have release clauses of around 100m. We are not going to listen to offers less than 150, considering what Coutinho went for. And if you are spending that kind of money, Mbappe and Salah are likely ahead of Eden in the queue. And are there really any other than Real Madrid that will be able to lure him away? Think he'll stay.
  24. Media / Press

    I still can't see much happening, not unless the government want to shoot themselves in the foot. Again. And with the WC looming large, it would probably be best not to poke the hornets nest too much. Unfortunately, too many people watch Breakfast tv soundbites and believe what is told to them. I doubt if Roman is overly fussed either.
  25. Transfer Talk Topic

    Thought that was the case with Salah, but there are usually rumors "confirming" such details. Anyway, you can be pretty sure these hefty transfers have some of the best legal advisors on it, capable of twisting and turning things in the clubs' favors. One way of doing it is making it not compulsory, but installing a significant penalty fee for Milan if the player is not purchased after the loan. Not an obligation, but a huge incentive.
  26. Squad Status: 2018/2019 Season

    Hodgson on RLC: Reason to be very optimistic on behalf of Ruben's chances of breaking through. Would not surprise me if he will be a frequent figure in the starting line-up next season. A likely switch to 4-3-3 will suit him well, along with several others in the squad.
  27. Eden Hazard

    As a fan of Chelsea, we need him right now so we need to keep him; unless we can use the money to bring in two top class attacking players. Looking at it from the outside, his lack of self motivation and ambition stops him from reaching his full potential, if he starts playing with more urgency then we'll be the ones holding him back; thing is we probably won't get much for him with a shorter contract, so it may be time to cash in.
  28. Transfer Talk Topic

    Is there such a thing as a loan with an obligation to buy? I'm pretty sure the accountants would treat it as a commitment to pay, so FFP would treat it as a buy. There is very little scope to get around FFP by structuring a deal. The accountancy rules have been dealing with that kind of thing for hundreds of years. Nor is there much purpose, payment timing is averaged out through amortisation, and then again through the FFP 3 year average and again by FFP guidance that high averages are allowed if lower numbers are likely to follow. Recouping on Morata - not much chance I guess. Last summer was the top of the market for a while. The real questions are whether we ever received £50m+ for Costa as was rumoured but never confirmed. And whether we can get a new CF without paying the same as we did for Morata. Or a new manager with a system that Morata would be useful in.
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