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[Monello]

Best RB prospect in FM I think. Absolute beast

[BluesMata8]

Monello, on 07 January 2012 - 02:17 PM, said:

Best RB prospect in FM I think. Absolute beast

Yeah and he does possess a good long throw as well, at least on FM. Not sure about reality. Haha.

[Kezza]

BluesMata8, on 07 January 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

Yeah and he does possess a good long throw as well, at least on FM. Not sure about reality. Haha.

It's amazing how FM can get so many prospects right spot on before they established themselves in real life. This guy plays for Barca in my FM. ;)

Edited by Kezza, 07 January 2012 - 04:30 PM.

[LosNumerados]

Apparently did very well against the likes of Cristiano, Higuain & Marcelo, is apparently very good at defending against wingers in one on ones, apparently he is good at attacking too, very good crosser of the ball too, as you say, they say he has a good long throw.

When I first heard of him, I heard a Spanish pundit saying he used to play in midfield in his youth and was a creative midfield passer.
They said that Madrid & Barca were very keen but, couldn't offer him 1st team football because Ramos at the time played RB & D.Alves was playing RB for Barcelona.

So.. I like to trust my own eyes, but, a very positive assessment & that you are saying he is good on FM is great because they have very conscientiousness scouts who go to academies & games week in week out & are reprimanded for inaccurate assessments. Juni's expertise here shows me why they have a good database.

Still the idea that programmers type in a set of rules, that they believe can realistically determine success in a game based on the variables by the end user, when managers who are paid in the profession and paid huge amounts to make those decisions make soo many mistakes, makes the game a pointless exercise for me. The database is the best thing about it.

[Bridge Soldier]

Kezza, on 07 January 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

It's amazing how FM can get so many prospects right spot on before they established themselves in real life. This guy plays for Barca in my FM. ;)

Not really amazing since they have a pretty thorough scouting system. There are plenty which never amount to anything as well.

[CharlieGarbs]

Bridge Soldier, on 07 January 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Not really amazing since they have a pretty thorough scouting system. There are plenty which never amount to anything as well.

I remember everyone raving about Freddy Adu years ago, he was meant to be some American sensation. I bought him on CM4 when he was about 13 and by the time he was 17 he was worth £30mil, top goal scorer. God know what happened to him in real life.

Edited by CharlieGarbs, 07 January 2012 - 06:09 PM.

[Bridge Soldier]

Adu went back to America from Benfica in the Summer and I think he's actually back in the US national team now.

But yes, the ultimate wonderkid flop.

[LosNumerados]

Freddy Adu is always going on trial at some 2nd division Greek club or something like that, he had great promise for his age, seeing as he shined at 13 among 18 year olds in an international tournament that included foreign clubs with the likes of Inter Milan etc.. He had recently moved from the U.S. from Ghana & so there was pressure for him to stay in the country to spearhead the U.S. game.

I maintain the best thing for talent is to play among other great talent, he listened to them and stayed in America, they argued that playing for the 1st team would be better for him than going to an academy in England. I knew it was a mistake, there was only so much longer for the physical superiority to make playing with older players a challenge for him.
He was already a big lad at 13, his talent need to be challenged more among other equally talented players.

Playing 1st team football does not mean development & Adu is a classic case for that, no doubt if he went to Barca & trained there it'd have done him so much more good, considering the level of talent they have in their academy & their philosophy.

Back to the original point, the scouting back then for the brand wasn't as comprehensive, but, despite this, I don't think it was wrong of them to rate Adu highly considering he shined among good European 18 year olds at 13, but, with youth predictions the earlier you make them the harder it is.. They made that prediction when he was 13.

I played the Championship Manager versions when I was younger & Ben Arfa was on it when he was 14

Edited by LosNumerados, 07 January 2012 - 06:24 PM.

[falkirk/chelsea_daft]

http://www.telegraph...aying-put.html?

Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas has identified two other central defenders as ‘backup’ targets should Cahill not agree a deal, which has been a frustration after the fee with Bolton was settled in December, and is in the market to sign another full-back, thought to be a right-back, in this transfer window as well as an attacker – but that will not happen until the end of the month

hopefully its this guy but just thought I would post as its another hint that it could be

[Akryalmidd]

falkirk/chelsea_daft, on 10 January 2012 - 07:07 AM, said:

and is in the market to sign another full-back, thought to be a right-back, in this transfer window as well as an attacker – but that will not happen until the end of the month

Why do we wait until the end of the month? It will be silly money either way, and if we're desperate we'll even go further when deadline day comes close. If we know what and who we want to buy, why not do the business as soon as possible? The quicker we buy anyone, the quicker that person will settle in and contribute.

Then again, this is coming from the telegraph...

[bluecueball]

I see your Freddy Adu and raise you with a Sherman Cardenas.

On topic, signing a right back like Azpilicueta gives us back Ivanovic as cover for both positions/first choice for both positions. It's always good to have versatile options. It would mean that we'd technically have 4 RB options though so a bit pointless unless Ferreira and/or Bosingwa were shipped out.

[sebcfc]

bluecueball, on 10 January 2012 - 08:53 AM, said:

I see your Freddy Adu and raise you with a Sherman Cardenas.

On topic, signing a right back like Azpilicueta gives us back Ivanovic as cover for both positions/first choice for both positions. It's always good to have versatile options. It would mean that we'd technically have 4 RB options though so a bit pointless unless Ferreira and/or Bosingwa were shipped out.

Well I would imagine Bosingwa is out in the summer, while in regards to Paulo he somehow seem to still have a year left after this, so he still might be around next year, although he might end up being a player who ends up without a squad number.

[haifarul]

sebcfc, on 12 January 2012 - 05:43 PM, said:

Well I would imagine Bosingwa is out in the summer, while in regards to Paulo he somehow seem to still have a year left after this, so he still might be around next year, although he might end up being a player who ends up without a squad number.

Who ever gave PF a five year deal when he was 30 needs shooting.

[LosNumerados]

I don't get it.. What is your problem with Paulo Ferreira being here? He's come in & done so well, when we have been thread bare, he is motivated to do well, even though he's no way near a regular. What is the actual problem with having Paulo here?

You would rather we sell him & buy a younger back up fullback that'll block Todd Kane, someone who wants to play & gets unhappy because he's not getting 1st team football, then asks to leave 2 years later.

I just don't understand, would we have been better if Ferreira was gone all these years. He's not a problem at all imo.

[Juan Mata Dor]

LosNumerados, on 12 January 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

I don't get it.. What is your problem with Paulo Ferreira being here? He's come in & done so well, when we have been thread bare, he is motivated to do well, even though he's no way near a regular. What is the actual problem with having Paulo here?

You would rather we sell him & buy a younger back up fullback that'll block Todd Kane, someone who wants to play & gets unhappy because he's not getting 1st team football, then asks to leave 2 years later.

I just don't understand, would we have been better if Ferreira was gone all these years. He's not a problem at all imo.

If he was that motivated to do well he would of left here a long time ago. I have to say I had a discussion some weeks ago with a pal about his actual footballing motivation.