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[James Prescott]

Yes please - just the player we need. Pace, skill, flair, creativity, best years ahead, potential world class. We could get him, just need to pull out the stops. A front three of Hazard on the left, Torres (in form) in the centre and Sturridge on the right with Mata in the hole just behind - wow.

Hope more than expectation I think - but who knows. I hope so.

[bert19]

 BluesMata8, on 14 January 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

Problem with that is Sneijder is not suited to a 4-4-2 system. Even he admitted that himself and said he likes to play in the hole, which is the role that SAF is using Rooney in at the moment.

I wouldn't put too much faith in Rooney being indulged by Fergie that much longer. He's fast reaching that stage that Fergie usually boots people out at.

As for Hazard, I know him by reputation and the odd youtube/SSN clip - and he seems pretty good and the sort of player that'd be useful for us

Could anyone give me a bit more detail though please?

[Budgeezer]

 bert19, on 14 January 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

I wouldn't put too much faith in Rooney being indulged by Fergie that much longer. He's fast reaching that stage that Fergie usually boots people out at.

As for Hazard, I know him by reputation and the odd youtube/SSN clip - and he seems pretty good and the sort of player that'd be useful for us

Could anyone give me a bit more detail though please?

Read back, there is enough info given to give you what you ask for.

[chelsea_matt]

 El Nino Essien, on 14 January 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

Why do people keep on mentioning Barca? They have just bought Sanchez, they have pedro, Villa, Afelley, their youth players and the best player in the world. Unless they sell, Barca is not a valid option.

....and they're skint.

[bert19]

 chelsea_matt, on 14 January 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

....and they're skint.

I'm willing to bet £100 that they don't get threatened by UEFA for not meeting FFP requirements though.

Us on the other hand.......

[falkirk/chelsea_daft]

just offer the bloody release clause and be done with it as if cahill took this long I dread to think how long eden would take to seal

[Suiko]

There'd be more to it than that. Hazard has openly said he doesn't want to leave until the summer and there's a lot of talk that his heart is set on Real Madrid

[thevelourfog]

 bert19, on 14 January 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

I'm willing to bet £100 that they don't get threatened by UEFA for not meeting FFP requirements though.

Us on the other hand.......

Because they will meet them. UEFA don't care about clubs being in debt.

[Blue_In_Every_Way]

Not going to happen. He's been talking about Arsenal and Real Madrid for a long time. Pretty sure he's the type of player(lucky enough) to be able to choose exactly where he wants to go - and that's only going to be Madrid.

[20/20]

People seem to be forgetting two important things: the 'agent' of Eden Hazard who said he wanted to go to Madrid, Marc Formeaux, isn't his agent. That was printed in Marca (pro-Madrid paper willing to post anything) and his real agent is John Bico.

[LosNumerados]

I want Sturridge signed!! This contract is worrying me! I hope any Hazard pursuit isn't a replacement

[JayCexy]

 LosNumerados, on 15 January 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

I want Sturridge signed!! This contract is worrying me! I hope any Hazard pursuit isn't a replacement

Chill out buddy. Seriously he has a year and a half to go

[JSLCampbell]

 LosNumerados, on 15 January 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

I want Sturridge signed!! This contract is worrying me! I hope any Hazard pursuit isn't a replacement

No, the aim will probably be to have Hazard out wide left and bring Mata in as an ATMC where he can link with Torres more.

[mastiffchild]

 LosNumerados, on 15 January 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

I want Sturridge signed!! This contract is worrying me! I hope any Hazard pursuit isn't a replacement

Oh, they will sort that or they will HAVE to have a really blinding plan B! Either way Hazard isn't really anything much like Danny, is he? Much more a cross between a true tricky winger and a number ten with an eye for goal to my mind and not nearly as direct as young Daniel-I actually think the two players on either side of Nando with Mata somewhere behind him would be thrilling to watch even if I have a feeling we might be just as well going for OPOcampos byut it has to be said that Chelsea kind of "need" a marquee signing and one with considerable creativity and flair too at some poiint in the very near future. I doubt, now, that many of us underestimate not bagging Modric last summer and many wil feel that we could, seriously, have made moire of a serious go at getting Pastore rather than allowing ourselves to be shafted by waiting on Levy changing his mind or Luka acting up and out of character(I really respect the guy for not crying and going on "strike" as many would have done esp after Levy lied to him to sign the extension)to engineer a move we kind of all knew would't happen.

Torres was a shock in every respect when he signed and Luiz, cult hero and with amazing, though erraatci , quality weren't targets we went after like we did with Modric or Robinho for example and it would possibly do the club a surge of goodto be seen capable of nabbing like likes of a Gotze or a Hazard. IDK if we can afford it and would go for a midfielder and Ocampos(I might be getting a man crush) more within our financial ploans going forward-do we, though, GET that creative midfield player simplay BY signing someone else to play on the LW!? Are we that sure Mata can be that man especially in a 433? I worry about him defensively in a 433 as he would seriously harm us trying to play the rotational midfield AVB loved at Porto because he's so slight and relatively weak and easily shrugged off by big , brutish box to boxers in the Prem-Modric is slight but can bear the physical battle as he's a more wiry little git! Go to 4231 and make use of the rotation we could have for all occasions in the holding/box to box/supporting two and Mata at a true number ten sounds great between a Hazard and Danny so I wonder if it's a case of us signing either or-whichever comes first or cheapest/best value? Of course that still leaves me thinking about the impact we'd have on the minds of other current talents in all positions by sending out a message with signing a player like Gotze or a Hazard. Putting it straight, from everything I've seen, unless we get someone as good in the middle as Luka or Wesley(ability wise)it might be cheaper value wise to go for a wide man. Porto want 35million Euros for Moutinho and you can get Hazard, younger and more exciting for 5million more right now and it's arguable that all Joao would do is mean we'd stkiill be short a true creator in MF as he's simply no Modric and not really close to the kind of type we'd need imhporto had threee pretty similar players all jack of all trades whereas our guys are more specialised in their skillsets and asigning Moutinho makes as many worries for my mind as it solves and the same's true of Rodwell and a host of other CM players who just aren't the creator we'd want and need=maybe Mata is our best bet, he's alreaady here and wingers seem a better prospect for me right now signing wise.

Anyway, yeah, we need to be signing Danny up sharpish as the fans would be unhappy if we endd up with a DD/Kalou contract mess over a young talent in the team every game-and English-so I'd be amazed if we didn't try to nail him down very long tertm very soon-we don't, as a club, want his own ideas of his value rising a good deal more in the apparent light of us folding to Cahill and playing the bloke 80 thou a week when Mata gets 65,000. Danny won't, and nor will his agent, see why Cahill's worth more unpriven at the Bridge than he, a creative goalscoring player in great form this year is. Also won't care about us saving on his transfer fee or want to hear about FFP rules when Cahill's boned that particular movement at the club meant to be cutting contract size. With players it comes down to that weekly paycheck and Studge will, quite understandably, feel he should be worth a bit more to his side than Cahill right about now and, equallu, wont get why Mata had to agree to less and Cahill didn't. They could and should have cut the weekly down and done a better signing on as that weekly figure doesn't go away but the one off of the signing on fee would imo-if the figures are teue about GC I think Gourlay could have caused himself and the cluba good few worries in the very near future.

Why does he et more than me every week? That's all they wil think, trust me, I just hoe it doesn't mean we have to ave a little more than we need to or end up upsetting players who we invested a lot of time, money and hope into for them to sod off just when we start needing them. They must sort all that out.

[El Nino Essien]

 20/20, on 15 January 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

People seem to be forgetting two important things: the 'agent' of Eden Hazard who said he wanted to go to Madrid, Marc Formeaux, isn't his agent. That was printed in Marca (pro-Madrid paper willing to post anything) and his real agent is John Bico.

This.