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35 minutes ago, chelboy said:

So it seems like TT prefers De Ligt to Kounde. I don’t think we will be getting both. The fact that Kounde has been taking forever makes me think it’s not TT first choice and might not happen after all. Reports saying we have around £200M which makes sense. TT should play it smart with Sterling and go for him in January or next year summer . Don’t pay £50M for someone who’s contract expires in 12 months especially when they are 25+. My guess is Sterling would like the idea of coming back to London, he won’t choose Arsenal or Spurs over us if he’s really serious so I think it should be a deal we can get done for a good price if we convince him. Just not for £50M. 

The way I'm rationalising my Sterling price is Mane was £35m. Sterling is English which probably adds £5m to the price. He's also younger which adds a few quid. City are selling to a team in the same league which probably bumps up the price again. The caveat being maybe he isn'y as important to City as Mane was to Liverpool. So £45-50m probably isn't far off.

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Massive fan of De Ligt, a proper leader and at only 22 still has so much potential.

I think it will be him AND Kounde though with Sterling/Richarlison and Dembele to come in too.

Be pretty happy with that personally.

 

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1 hour ago, ROTG said:

Agree with a CB and midfield maestro. 

As for a striker I am not so sure, the CV of most of the clubs attacking players were exemplary prior to coming to the club and have been coached by TT for 18 months and he has been unable to get a regular tune out of any of them. Therefore adding an ordinary player for an alleged £60 seems buffoonery of the highest order. 

Maybe it’s the case TT offensive side is not as good as many believe, and was fortunate to have one of the worlds strongest attacking line ups at PSG. 

I think you need to take off your anti TT blinkers Rob , we were flying , absolutely flying before the injuries to our wing backs , even Lukaku wasn't stinking the place out until he got injured and appeared to eat Gian-Franco Zola whilst recuperating . We don't get injuries to Chilwell , James , Lukaku and CHO and we finish far closer to the two up top . Injuries , Covid and being the only club not to get a rest killed our season not Tuchel.

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12 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

I think you need to take off your anti TT blinkers Rob , we were flying , absolutely flying before the injuries to our wing backs , even Lukaku wasn't stinking the place out until he got injured and appeared to eat Gian-Franco Zola whilst recuperating . We don't get injuries to Chilwell , James , Lukaku and CHO and we finish far closer to the two up top . Injuries , Covid and being the only club not to get a rest killed our season not Tuchel.

I was certain we were going to win the league until those injuries hit to James and Chilly.

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10 minutes ago, FrankLampard8 said:

I was certain we were going to win the league until those injuries hit to James and Chilly.

... as were a lot of pundits and commentators.

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22 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

I think you need to take off your anti TT blinkers Rob , we were flying , absolutely flying before the injuries to our wing backs , even Lukaku wasn't stinking the place out until he got injured and appeared to eat Gian-Franco Zola whilst recuperating . We don't get injuries to Chilwell , James , Lukaku and CHO and we finish far closer to the two up top . Injuries , Covid and being the only club not to get a rest killed our season not Tuchel.

Mark. 

As I have said many times, I am not anti TT, I am still waiting for him to prove he is a top Coach who can turn the squad into a PL winning team. In eyes of many on this forum all the issues are with the players, whereas IMO it’s a bit of both. 

If you go take look at TT on transfermaket and see his team formations at Dortmund and PSG and Chelsea last season  then you may understand why I continually refer to formation and tactics. 

Apologies for veering of the forum subject.   

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https://www.90min.com/posts/west-ham-turn-down-new-chelsea-approach-declan-rice

west ham have got some cheek, they like signing our players but they won't sell anyone to us

no way will Rice sign a new contract, he's made it clear he wants to leave and go to us, he stays for another season and his price will half

tell them to do one when they want to sign any of ours from now on

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11 minutes ago, Everyonesallowedanopinion said:

https://www.90min.com/posts/west-ham-turn-down-new-chelsea-approach-declan-rice

west ham have got some cheek, they like signing our players but they won't sell anyone to us

no way will Rice sign a new contract, he's made it clear he wants to leave and go to us, he stays for another season and his price will half

tell them to do one when they want to sign any of ours from now on


The players West Ham signed from us were players we were happy to sell. It was a bit like someone going into a shop, picking an item off a shelf and paying for it. Regarding Rice, West Ham don't want to sell. Therefore they don't have to sell. No "cheek" involved (unless you have an exceptionalist mind set).

Rice has a contract until 2024, but West Ham have the option of extending that contract by a year, so effectively he's theirs until the end of the 2024-25 season. It doesn't matter that he won't sign a new contract; they still hold all the cards for the moment. And while he may very well want to move, he's not going to cause problems, especially as he's very likely to be the club captain. Above everything else, he's a professional.

If West Ham don't do well in Europe and don't qualify for Europe next season, some of West Ham's leverage is lost, and Rice can then say, '"look, you knew I wanted to move, but I respected your decision to keep me, I gave 100% and never caused problems, but we've regressed rather than progress. Club x are still interested and I'd like permission to talk to them, and I'd like you to accept any sensible offer they make"

We'll be back for Rice next summer, and I dare say we'll get him then.

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1 hour ago, ROTG said:

Mark. 

As I have said many times, I am not anti TT, I am still waiting for him to prove he is a top Coach who can turn the squad into a PL winning team. In eyes of many on this forum all the issues are with the players, whereas IMO it’s a bit of both. 

 

I agree 

I would add this.  TT  might well be a top coach, but that still might not be enough when up against two elite managers. Imho, if we win the league again while Pep and Klopp are still here, then it will be the single greatest achievement in our history. 

 

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31 minutes ago, boratsbrother said:

I agree 

I would add this.  TT  might well be a top coach, but that still might not be enough when up against two elite managers. Imho, if we win the league again while Pep and Klopp are still here, then it will be the single greatest achievement in our history. 

 

Munich 2012 will never be surpassed but I get your point.

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