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Official: Thomas Tuchel Appointed New Chelsea Head Coach

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Holymoly   
16 hours ago, Freeboot-Rightz said:

The question is why continue trying to play players e.g. Pulisic in a WB position when it is obvious to all that he is not suited to that position.

I'm old school. I grew up in the sixties. At one stage there were no substitutes. Then one sub was only allowed for an injury. Players had to be adaptable and they were paid 2/6 and a packet of Woodbines. They went to the same pub as the supporters. Fast forward to today and our vision is clouded by computer games, FIFA and Football Manager. We place players on pedestals and nominally flag them as AML, MCR, ST, or (god help us) Regista as if it is literally impossible for them to play in any other position. This has all happened in a single lifetime. If you're a kid today, just imagine what the environment will be in another 50 years.

The fact is we bought Lukaku, which was always a mistake for me. We knew what he lacked psychologically from first time round. His inclusion requires the entire club ethos to revolve around him. Then we get hit with a plethora of key injuries, and I mean KEY injuries. Arguably even if Lukaku had hit the ground running players like James and Chilwell would still have been more important to the success of the club. Now we're without them we have to adapt and surely it's not beyond the wit of man to expect professional footballers to play in more than one position? Lukaku needs to be taken into a room and have it explained to him that while the tactics are presently perhaps not what he expected when he signed up, there are extenuating circumstances and it behoves every single player to pull together and play for the club. If he is not able to do so then shake his hand and drive him to the airport.

We have been duped into believing that a left back is born and that it is impossible to convert another player to that position. It really isn't. Even the most inept donkey in the squad (I'm looking at you Ross Barkley) is a superb athlete. We employ the absolute best coaches, specialist positional trainers, tacticians and support staff, surely to god they are capable of helping a professional football figure out the requirements for playing in a position they are not accustomed to? As TT has said, it's not rocket science. We need to take off the blinkers and expect more from the players and the players need to realise that this is exactly the situation where they earn their wages. They are supposed to be the best of the best? Well go out and show it to us and stop hiding behind their positional designation in the squad listing. They are footballers, end of story.

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Ro61   
35 minutes ago, Holymoly said:

I'm old school. I grew up in the sixties. At one stage there were no substitutes. Then one sub was only allowed for an injury. Players had to be adaptable and they were paid 2/6 and a packet of Woodbines. They went to the same pub as the supporters. Fast forward to today and our vision is clouded by computer games, FIFA and Football Manager. We place players on pedestals and nominally flag them as AML, MCR, ST, or (god help us) Regista as if it is literally impossible for them to play in any other position. This has all happened in a single lifetime. If you're a kid today, just imagine what the environment will be in another 50 years.

The fact is we bought Lukaku, which was always a mistake for me. We knew what he lacked psychologically from first time round. His inclusion requires the entire club ethos to revolve around him. Then we get hit with a plethora of key injuries, and I mean KEY injuries. Arguably even if Lukaku had hit the ground running players like James and Chilwell would still have been more important to the success of the club. Now we're without them we have to adapt and surely it's not beyond the wit of man to expect professional footballers to play in more than one position? Lukaku needs to be taken into a room and have it explained to him that while the tactics are presently perhaps not what he expected when he signed up, there are extenuating circumstances and it behoves every single player to pull together and play for the club. If he is not able to do so then shake his hand and drive him to the airport.

We have been duped into believing that a left back is born and that it is impossible to convert another player to that position. It really isn't. Even the most inept donkey in the squad (I'm looking at you Ross Barkley) is a superb athlete. We employ the absolute best coaches, specialist positional trainers, tacticians and support staff, surely to god they are capable of helping a professional football figure out the requirements for playing in a position they are not accustomed to? As TT has said, it's not rocket science. We need to take off the blinkers and expect more from the players and the players need to realise that this is exactly the situation where they earn their wages. They are supposed to be the best of the best? Well go out and show it to us and stop hiding behind their positional designation in the squad listing. They are footballers, end of story.

Superb post,and understands the very ethos of a professional footballer( that should be!!!)and a manager that can only do so much without saying footballers are just thick!.

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https://www.football365.com/

Here's football 365's take on it : Note , they haven't got one , they have got a story about how Tuchel should bend to Lukaku's will to make Chelsea better if it helps ?

 

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1 hour ago, Holymoly said:

I'm old school. I grew up in the sixties. At one stage there were no substitutes. Then one sub was only allowed for an injury. Players had to be adaptable and they were paid 2/6 and a packet of Woodbines. They went to the same pub as the supporters. Fast forward to today and our vision is clouded by computer games, FIFA and Football Manager. We place players on pedestals and nominally flag them as AML, MCR, ST, or (god help us) Regista as if it is literally impossible for them to play in any other position. This has all happened in a single lifetime. If you're a kid today, just imagine what the environment will be in another 50 years.

The fact is we bought Lukaku, which was always a mistake for me. We knew what he lacked psychologically from first time round. His inclusion requires the entire club ethos to revolve around him. Then we get hit with a plethora of key injuries, and I mean KEY injuries. Arguably even if Lukaku had hit the ground running players like James and Chilwell would still have been more important to the success of the club. Now we're without them we have to adapt and surely it's not beyond the wit of man to expect professional footballers to play in more than one position? Lukaku needs to be taken into a room and have it explained to him that while the tactics are presently perhaps not what he expected when he signed up, there are extenuating circumstances and it behoves every single player to pull together and play for the club. If he is not able to do so then shake his hand and drive him to the airport.

We have been duped into believing that a left back is born and that it is impossible to convert another player to that position. It really isn't. Even the most inept donkey in the squad (I'm looking at you Ross Barkley) is a superb athlete. We employ the absolute best coaches, specialist positional trainers, tacticians and support staff, surely to god they are capable of helping a professional football figure out the requirements for playing in a position they are not accustomed to? As TT has said, it's not rocket science. We need to take off the blinkers and expect more from the players and the players need to realise that this is exactly the situation where they earn their wages. They are supposed to be the best of the best? Well go out and show it to us and stop hiding behind their positional designation in the squad listing. They are footballers, end of story.

Nice! Excellent post.

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Ham   
4 hours ago, Mark Kelly said:

https://www.football365.com/

Here's football 365's take on it : Note , they haven't got one , they have got a story about how Tuchel should bend to Lukaku's will to make Chelsea better if it helps ?

 

Is it not more sensible for one player to mould to the shape of the team that has just won the CL without him?

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24 minutes ago, Ham said:

Is it not more sensible for one player to mould to the shape of the team that has just won the CL without him?

But of course

This is Football 365 after all , who still refer to Lampard as Bambi , I guess because they're fools with a "C"

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chara   
39 minutes ago, Ham said:

Is it not more sensible for one player to mould to the shape of the team that has just won the CL without him?

Now now Ham......you must have been reading those old Charles Buchan books!....the very idea...this is the Modern Game...cast aside such old fashioned tactics...embrace the Brave New World.

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bert19   
1 hour ago, Mark Kelly said:

But of course

This is Football 365 after all , who still refer to Lampard as Bambi , I guess because they're fools with a "C"

I stopped reading Football365 about 15 years ago because of the endless digs they made about/at us and because I could never read an article or report that gave me analysis rather than barely-veiled hatred of us.  Tedious website, run by very tedious people.  Not worth anyone's time. 

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9 hours ago, Holymoly said:

I'm old school. I grew up in the sixties. At one stage there were no substitutes. Then one sub was only allowed for an injury. Players had to be adaptable and they were paid 2/6 and a packet of Woodbines. They went to the same pub as the supporters. Fast forward to today and our vision is clouded by computer games, FIFA and Football Manager. We place players on pedestals and nominally flag them as AML, MCR, ST, or (god help us) Regista as if it is literally impossible for them to play in any other position. This has all happened in a single lifetime. If you're a kid today, just imagine what the environment will be in another 50 years.

The fact is we bought Lukaku, which was always a mistake for me. We knew what he lacked psychologically from first time round. His inclusion requires the entire club ethos to revolve around him. Then we get hit with a plethora of key injuries, and I mean KEY injuries. Arguably even if Lukaku had hit the ground running players like James and Chilwell would still have been more important to the success of the club. Now we're without them we have to adapt and surely it's not beyond the wit of man to expect professional footballers to play in more than one position? Lukaku needs to be taken into a room and have it explained to him that while the tactics are presently perhaps not what he expected when he signed up, there are extenuating circumstances and it behoves every single player to pull together and play for the club. If he is not able to do so then shake his hand and drive him to the airport.

We have been duped into believing that a left back is born and that it is impossible to convert another player to that position. It really isn't. Even the most inept donkey in the squad (I'm looking at you Ross Barkley) is a superb athlete. We employ the absolute best coaches, specialist positional trainers, tacticians and support staff, surely to god they are capable of helping a professional football figure out the requirements for playing in a position they are not accustomed to? As TT has said, it's not rocket science. We need to take off the blinkers and expect more from the players and the players need to realise that this is exactly the situation where they earn their wages. They are supposed to be the best of the best? Well go out and show it to us and stop hiding behind their positional designation in the squad listing. They are footballers, end of story.

Absolutely terrific post - the thinking person's take on it all. Well said.

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