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Roman Abramovich and Chelsea FC : Sanctions

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Ro61   
10 minutes ago, ROTG said:

you will get your chance in 18 months by voting them out of office

 

10 minutes ago, ROTG said:

you will get your chance in 18 months by voting them out of office

Ha! you'r joking!.The average voter is a sheep that  follows sheep.

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45 minutes ago, charlie_sw69 said:
 latest news...

 

So one day stories of doom and gloom, the next it's assurances from the head of UNICEF!

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Floyd25   

Yesterday the media said we might cease to exist, today it’s the green light….for heavens sake.

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9 hours ago, Floyd25 said:

Yesterday the media said we might cease to exist, today it’s the green light….for heavens sake.

The problem , I find , with the media in this country is they write what they would like to happen rather than what is actually happening , my rule of thumb is to totally ignore anything they say as they can't even get the football right without spinning it so what chance have they got with important issues ?  The media is used as a tool of control and influence these days and it probably always has been.

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Sciatika   

Agree. If such a report ever took place, then I would look to civil servants in DCMS. Civil servants have undermined our democracy for decades irrespective of the party in power. The memoirs of politicians from as far back as Richard Crossman show how civil servants sought to undermine policy by miring MPs in paperwork or through briefings. Much of "Yes Minister" was based on Crossman's memoir. Successive governments had the same problem in the 70s, 80s and 90s. John Reid's comment that the Home Office was not fit for purpose in the noughties suggests that incompetence should be added to the charge sheet. Nothing has changed. These days, civil servants frequently use private briefings to undermine the government - not that they aren't doing a good job of it themselves. In the US, they call it the swamp, but we talk about the bubble or "deep state". Actually, all democracies have the same problem. Ancient Athenians frequently rail against the actions of the various public committees and, in Ancient Rome, the use of public briefings became the norm. Julius Caesar sent "letters" to Rome from campaign to be read in the public square designed to undermine the position of the Optimates (a sort of political party) in the Senate. However, more likely, someone probably made it up for a blog post and through a process of repetition, the story spreads through social media until it becomes fake news and the newspapers report it for clicks. They take the view that if it is true it should be reported and if it is not it doesn't matter because it will just become digital chip paper.

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RDCW   
4 minutes ago, Sciatika said:

Agree. If such a report ever took place, then I would look to civil servants in DCMS. Civil servants have undermined our democracy for decades irrespective of the party in power. The memoirs of politicians from as far back as Richard Crossman show how civil servants sought to undermine policy by miring MPs in paperwork or through briefings. Much of "Yes Minister" was based on Crossman's memoir. Successive governments had the same problem in the 70s, 80s and 90s. John Reid's comment that the Home Office was not fit for purpose in the noughties suggests that incompetence should be added to the charge sheet. Nothing has changed. These days, civil servants frequently use private briefings to undermine the government - not that they aren't doing a good job of it themselves. In the US, they call it the swamp, but we talk about the bubble or "deep state". Actually, all democracies have the same problem. Ancient Athenians frequently rail against the actions of the various public committees and, in Ancient Rome, the use of public briefings became the norm. Julius Caesar sent "letters" to Rome from campaign to be read in the public square designed to undermine the position of the Optimates (a sort of political party) in the Senate. However, more likely, someone probably made it up for a blog post and through a process of repetition, the story spreads through social media until it becomes fake news and the newspapers report it for clicks. They take the view that if it is true it should be reported and if it is not it doesn't matter because it will just become digital chip paper.

All of them, all the time ignoring the victims who are the collateral damage of such immoral and unprofessional behaviour.

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Ham   
1 hour ago, RDC Williams said:

All of them, all the time ignoring the victims who are the collateral damage of such immoral and unprofessional behaviour.

Such as Chelsea FC 😉

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paulw66   

Would be great if there was some concrete progress before Sunday. 

Get the big man out on the pitch for a wave before the game.

New era. 

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