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  1. 4 points
    #lampardout :-( We've played 4 games, we're 10th with 5 points. OK, frustrating and disappointing result today but Tammy scored 2 goals which continues to be very encouraging. I don't know what people expect this season. We're still missing Kante and Rudiger and a hard decision will have to be made about Dave. And of course one of the best players in the world has left us. This season I find myself looking at the results of the 'lower' teams and that's ok. Frank is learning and we have young players who are learning but I find all that quite refreshing. It's actually quite nice to get off the treadmill and consolidate and build again. Personally, if this board does anything idiotic and premature in the next few months, I will take a back seat from football. I don't expect anything from this season apart from hopefully staying well clear of the relegation zone and finishing in a respectable position. Mason Mount isn't Frank Lampard. Tammy Abraham isn't Didier Drogba. Kurt Zouma will never be John Terry and no one will ever be Eden Hazard. And sadly, Azpilicueta is no longer Azpilicueta. We don't need constant success to enjoy being a Chelsea supporter. Out time will come again but it certainly won't be this season. I just feel proud that our best ever player and someone who genuinely cares for Chelsea is back as our manager. Let's support him. #lampardinforever :-)
  2. 4 points
    Now I know we've got issues and a long way to go to get back to where we want to be but I'm absolutely loving seeing two Academy products scoring in the Premier League. We've waited to see this for so long. Overjoyed.
  3. 3 points
    We will never agree on this. Everyone on here knows your stance on this for a number of years now. Some transfers that had a rough crossover in terms of timings to think about. Ake out - Rudiger in - I think there was 4/5 months apart on these transfers. Turns out that Rudiger has been a very good signing, but point is Ake will have more than held his own here and is at least on a par, if not better, than Zouma and Christensen now. Chalobah out - Bakayoko in - I think this was same summer and same position. We sold an academy player for £7 million and replaced him with a £40 million version who is certainly not better. Aina out (initially on loan) - Zappacosta in - From a squad perspective, could Ola Aina not have done a job very similar to Zappacosta and we saved ourselves £25 million. Personally, I am giving very little credit to Sarri for both CHO and RLC breaking through. Regardless of what game time they did get, they should have got more and it should have happened far sooner. Sarri backed down by playing them to take some heat of himself, its funny how CHO seemed to appear in the team around January window time. As for CHO, there is a part of me that beleives its because it was Bayern Munich making such a hard attempt to get him as one good reason why we never sold him. It's such a big football club who wanted him, I can't help but think we may have seen a different outcome if it was someone like a Real Betis or Lazio who wanted him. I go back to Abraham in Jan, its widely reported it was a done deal that we had accepted Wolves bid. I believe the transfer didn't happen due to some rule about appearing for three different clubs in one season or something, he must have made some token appearance for us and was on loan at Villa at the time ( I cannot quite remember the exact scenario, but the key point is, the club had him sold only 9 months ago!)
  4. 3 points
    Remembering Ray Wilkins today one year on. A lovely man with such a sad story.
  5. 3 points
    Well of course no one should be labelling lampards job so far as "fantastic" just as nobody should be calling it "rubbish". For crying out loud, we have a new young coach in his first Premiership job. He's 4 games in and he's mid table. There have been some good moments and some dodgy ones. He has lost the best player in the league in Hazard. Morata and Huguain are gone and we have a rooky forward. We have a transfer ban. We have injuries to key players in key positions. We are conceding but we are also (very importantly) scoring. What exactly is the rush to condemn him? I notice this not only from a few Chelsea fans but hugely from outside the club. Almost everyone I know from other clubs supporters is salivating at the thought of him failing. ..much more so than usual. If he was a young, black, rooky foreign coach everyone would be sitting on their hands saying "give him time , give him time". Apart from the ones who would probably twitter racist abuse pretending to be Chelsea supporters. I'm not sure where the lady who wrote this article thinks the "Chelsea Bar" should be this season but I think I know where she would like us to finish.
  6. 2 points
    So one of our biggest talents looks like he's here for a while....nice to have you back Mark! In other news CHO signs a 180k a week contract... Good news all round :)
  7. 2 points
  8. 2 points
    No ligament damage to Mount's ankle, X-rays reveal. Phew
  9. 2 points
    Hmm..now and again I get a bit suspicious of Father Christmas...Tinkerbell however I do KNOW is real! Didn't see the game due to hospital apt and only got back in time for missed penalty ..followed the game on here at that stage so unable to make any comments but I'm a little concerned that James keeps being mentioned more and more. Not that I don't want to see what he can do but rather there seems to be a build up of expectation that is very unfair on the boy. Almost being mentioned with the same breath as Kante coming back...Don't want to see him ease into the side and hammered because he is human not a second coming of a world class full back yet.Have high hopes for him but please let him progress without over bloated expectations.
  10. 2 points
    Pedro was not really rusty, he has been playing like that since the start of the season. Was poor against United and Leicester giving the ball away time after time. We became a better team once he dropped out of the first 11. If Pedro has no scoring opportunities in a game then he is pretty much useless. Barely helps in the build up and runs into trouble. He still tries to play like he is 25 yrs old. Was a good player in his days but now he is just declining quickly. One thing I hope Frank does learn is not to play Willian and Pedro together. Both can frustrate strikers with the lack of being able to find them in the final third. Also taking extra touches on the ball slows down opportunities. Saw it with previous strikers too. The kind of strikers we have we need more of a direct approach to get the best out of them.
  11. 2 points
    ...Azpi. Whatever one thinks about Luiz he'd have been in there sorting it out (and possibly taking it himself ). Can't score in open play, but is a brilliant penalty taker. Edit: what really gets me here is the lack of respect for Willian and Jorginho. These guys are serious players with real track records. Barkley was our 5th choice CM last season, 6th now after Mount. His track record is in the physio room. A little bolshiness is very attractive in a 20 year old trying to create an impression at Everton. Barkley is 25 and the impression is no longer as promising.
  12. 2 points
    I don't have kids but bloody hell I'm struggling to think of a time I've felt so proud of the boys.
  13. 2 points
    Cretin. Stats, particularly for a GK have little bearing, especially after 4 games. The Zouma OG , there was no shot on target, but we conceded. This negatively impacts his save percentage through no fault of his own. Someone could shoot from 30 yards, and it trickles towards the goal, and the keeper fields it, and that is a "save".... Doesn't tell the whole story. Tell me which of the goals we have conceded that were his fault. And he has ousted De Gea as Spain No1 by the way. Brilliant signing.
  14. 2 points
    The whole thing seemed a bit too co- ordinated to me, and not just the rantings of an angry Chelsea racists sitting in his house in Battersea wanting to give this new young Chelsea player (whom we are all pinning our hopes on to keep our season from collapsing) a piece of his racist mind for missing a pen. As for Rashford, he is the pride of United and one of their big hopes for the future. The fact that they have picked on this popular player also smelt fishy to me. In his previous posts TVL mentioned that this is not a new thing and its been going on all the time and that I should just google a black players name next to racists insults and stuff would come up (maybe he said black players in general but it makes no odds)... but it did give me cause to google something. These 'racists' were very evident in past years(and lets face it , I'm damn sure we still have them at Chelsea) . So I googled Tiemoue Bakayoko/racist insults. This is a black player that cost big money who infuriated so many of us with his poor performances, poor football skills and lazy looking attitude. The boiling point for me came when under Conte at a vital part of our season, when a win was vital for our top four hopes, he managed to get himself stupidly sent off after about 15 mins.Here was a target to get 'home racists insulting members of their own team through social media or tweets...except their weren't any .Not that I could find on google . Baka got plenty of racist stuff sent his way when he was in Italy . Lazio fans apparently brought blow up bananas to a game and sang a song with the catchy lyric "would you like a banana Bakayoko". TBH I don't think any of us are surprised by those lovely Italian ultras. But the point is why now with Tammy, and not then with Baka? The answer IMO is that Baka was just too low profile for it to have the desired effect and subsequent big media coverage. Plus, outside of our own circle, it was not widely known how much Baka was frustrating us on the pitch. On the other hand , our first black academy product to ever play as CF, in a big European cup game against arch rivals was the perfect platform to shock and get attention. Like shooting apples in a barrel. Not surprisingly the Red Cafe is having similar discussions to us. Most admitting racists lurk within the club, some suspicious of these tweets, some suspecting outside forces/oppo supporters and some claiming that because of Uniteds worldwide fanbase, its quite possible, that a tweet can come from some Man United supporting ex Serbian war general whose last proper job was to ethically cleanse his town of all its muslims by locking them in a burning building. The world is big and it can be a vile place. The internet brings it into every living room. We all have our own filters and we use them as we see fit.
  15. 2 points
    Dean Saunders jailed for 10 weeks. I hope Paul Elliott is having a glassing of wine somewhere.
  16. 2 points
    I know Mount is doing well, when my 8-year-old daughter (who has a small, but growing interest in football and Chelsea) sat with me at various times throughout the match and would always ask 'Where's Mason?'. After the match, and to Mrs MBIB's irritation, she was walking around the house chanting 'Oh Tammy Tammy...'. Lovely stuff! Just really enjoying seeing our team managed by Frank and by seeing some young players getting a chance, it's what so many have asked for, for so long and it's finally happening. I don't expect a title this season, I'd be surprised at top 4, but I'm going to enjoy this ride and this manager and these players have got my backing more than any others for quite a while.
  17. 1 point
    I remember mentioning this before the season started and basically got laughed at. So far, and based on performances, he ain’t the one who will move to the bench once Rudiger is back. I also see a few try to say we’d be better had we played 343. Pfft, this is the formation we should play and by far the best one for us given the players we have. I think we would have been absolutely trashed in midfield had we gone with a two, not to mention the flanks behind Azpi and Alonso. Frank got the team spot on. We utterly deserved at least a point, probably all three considering how they were gifted the second goal by Oliver and Alonso and how they ****ed us over by the usage and non-usage of VAR. I hope Frank will now continue with the 433 and get back to a high-press, high-intensity game plan and leave the Antonio Conte defensive rubbish where it belongs. In the bin.
  18. 1 point
    Someone needs to go through Henderson at 1000 mph from behind.
  19. 1 point
    True. But maybe one day we will be able to celebrate an opposition goal being ruled out. It is killing the joy of sport.
  20. 1 point
    He is doing alright so far. 4 games, 10 points, and a CL away draw at AM. But hey there are still people congratulating themselves because they predicted he'd be out of Chelsea in 12 months.
  21. 1 point
    He played 90 minutes for the u23s yesterday. He's match fit but won't feature today.
  22. 1 point
    Is your theory that Cech is not an important link between the first team and the board, based on the fact that in the past you have said that he isn't an important link between the first team and the board, or do you have any evidence or quotes to back that up?
  23. 1 point
    Like you got it right about Sarri after a handful of games?
  24. 1 point
    I very rarely get my evaluations and predictions wrong. I don't have gold, or even silver; just decent objective untinted judgement.
  25. 1 point
    Kante and Emerson trained yesterday, as did CHO. Rudiger sadly did not.
  26. 1 point
    Conte 16/17 even more so. We never ever seemed to be much better than the oppo. And despite the extra CB we didn't even defend very effectively. One might have expected some very random results. But the game was always under our control and the results invariably went our way.
  27. 1 point
    I’d imagine Barkley is fearing for his Chelsea and England career with the emergence of Mount and RLC to come back. Perhaps he was trying to make a statement. I guess he did just that.
  28. 1 point
    Frank is smart but I doubt he'll be able to speak fluently in Dutch in only a few months.
  29. 1 point
    Having watched some detailed highlights again last night, I think there is another positive to take from this game on Saturday. I have been a critic of Batshuayi and much for the same reasons as the majority, when it comes to his all round game. Looking at it again, he had quite an impact when he came on in this game. He showed a real selfish streak and looked determined to get in on the goals, he seemed to pick up the pace of the game quickly and looked just as much a threat as Abraham had in the game. You have to take game circumstances into account in that he was fresh up against defenders who had endured a difficult 70mins at that point, but I just he looked more of a threat than he has in the past. That selfish element to his game is something we have lacked now for 2-3 seasons and he just showed enough to think he could prove to be a very useful option for the squad and off the bench this season. I'm reluctant to think of him as too important an option at this moment, mainly because I still have concerns about his overall quality. He just showed a glimmer of something on Saturday, it was enough to suggest he could add a valuable 8-12 goals throughout the season and he might not be the write off that I was coming around to thinking he was.
  30. 1 point
    Good to see our spy in the camp doing good work.
  31. 1 point
    We all know wolves only perform against top 6 teams.
  32. 1 point
    Today’s “issues “, are tomorrow’s “challenges” and the futures “successes” Well, that’s how I try to rationalise things anyways. Head up and Up The Chels
  33. 1 point
    I hate posts like this with a passion. If you know anything about football statistics, then you will know they can be completely misleading and are not black and white. I don't know why you would chose to post this in such a negative manner. Pi$$ poor post of the month winner with this mindless tripe.
  34. 1 point
    Yeah same here. We were a bit mentally flakey at times, it used to really annoy me how inconsistent we were. We could smash anyone and get smashed by anyone on our day. We did have some great characters at the club throughout the 90s and fantastic underrated players like Wisey, Townsend, Chappie Ferrer to name a few. I miss the days when no one really cared about us, yeah probably because we were not a serious threat. Nowadays everyone has a recycled press opinion of what goes on at the club, with the majority miles away from the reality.
  35. 1 point
    Possibly. We should worry about this season first I suppose. But the coffers should be full next season after zero outlay this time round. If Roman is back on board and we can get a world class CF plus 2 or 3 other key position buys, I think we could punch well above our weight next season. I also see another great 19 year old academy prospect ( whose name escapes me) has signed a new contract, sighting Lampard as the main reason for wanting to stay. And this reputation as a club that will give the best young talent an opportunity and chance to shine, I'm sure will serve us well. It must be balanced with experience, we dont want to see 8 or 9 teenagers running around like headless chickens, but we do want the world's best kids ( and their parents) looking at Chelsea as a good career option and not just a trip on the loan merry go round hoping another club might spot you. I think we are at a significant crossroads as a club. I'm hoping we take the road less travelled.
  36. 1 point
    Is that you Torrestheblue?
  37. 1 point
    I think even next season is too soon for a title challenge. This season top 6 would be a big achievement. Next season, with the budget as you say, I'd hope for top 4. I can't see us challenging for the title until 21/22.
  38. 1 point
    QFT Yes give him time, but let's not ban fair comments on a game by game basis. No - there is an expectation by some of us that Lamps may do poorly, especially if he doesn't pull his socks up, BUT even so no one expects him to be fired. The right comparison is AVB - ex-Chelsea, a massively aging team with young replacements, a new style of play and less than 24 months of experience in Portugal as manager. At the start of a re-build which fans recognised and the club backed with a lot of young players. Fans were quick enough to get on his back and want him out. And he won 6 of his first 8 PL games. Sacked in 5th position (we are 11th with 5 points in 4 games having not played a strong side yet).
  39. 1 point
    we can take the mick as much as we like but he would improve our central defence tenfold
  40. 1 point
    The highlights on Azpi really don't reflect the whole 90. I watched the evening version on Sky after a quick scan on here, so was looking out for him. Going forward he was really good again, arriving late with some great crossing. Azpi does seem to have lost some pace. Part of that may be fitness - he was slow for the start of last season. And this season he is being used equally with Emerson in getting forward whereas last year generally Alonso went and Azpi stayed. G Neville made an interesting point today in the N London derby game about Sanchez the Spurs CB playing RB. That FB fitness is an entirely different level to CB fitness. I wonder if 2 seasons playing RCB affected Azpi's stamina and he needs more work. Plus of course, he could well be carrying some kind of injury - Zappa has gone and James isn't fit, so being Azpi he'd just carry on and the club would never say anything. One assist and set up the best chance of the match. I thought he was OK defensively and very effective with the ball overall. Say what you like when you like, just don't have a go at people for having opinions of games because they have only watched 10% of the season.
  41. 1 point
    Not going into meltdown but creating nothing at home to a newly promoted team, looking vulnerable defensively, and making poor substitutions, isn't acceptable, whether your name is Frank Lampard or not . That's the risk of appointing a hugely inexperienced coach I guess.
  42. 1 point
    Yes of course. The substitutions were more than questionable and the games we've played so far have all had the same pattern. More than encouraging bright, attacking play followed by an apparent inability to remain secure defensively. Yes, management has to be accountable for the shortcomings and I'm sure that Frank is under no illusions about that. It's still very early on though and I don't think we should be going into meltdown just yet.
  43. 1 point
    Poor day for Frank. Not the day to leave your most capable centre-back out. Not the time in the game to bring on a young kid for his debut. Team looked disjointed. Defence were fragile. Created nothing second half. Poor subs. Expected better from Frank. Abraham's contribution apart, all round a really bad day.
  44. 1 point
    With the draw tomorrow, I thought I'd set up a topic for us to discuss all things Champions League... what are our chances? Who do we want/not want to be drawn against? Potential return of Hazard? Pots as they currently stand are: Pot 1 Liverpool Chelsea Barcelona Bayern Munich Juventus Manchester City Paris Saint-Germain Zenit Pot 2 (unconfirmed) Real Madrid Atletico Madrid Borussia Dortmund Napoli Shakhtar Donetsk Tottenham Ajax Benfica Pot 3 (unconfirmed) Lyon Bayer Leverkusen Salzburg Olympiacos Club Brugge Valencia Inter Milan Dinamo Zagreb Pot 4 (unconfirmed) Lokomotiv Moscow Genk Galatasaray RB Leipzig Slavia Prague Red Star Belgrade Atalanta Lille For me the hardest draw we could get would be: CHELSEA Real Madrid Inter Milan RB Leipzig and the 'easiest' would be: CHELSEA Shakhtar Donetsk Club Brugge Red Star Belgrade
  45. 1 point
    This will be my first game at the bridge for two full seasons. I'm really looking forward to seeing this squad and manager in action, they have re-energised my passion for the club after what has been a dismal period at the club. I accept things wont feel almost as carefree as they are now and results are still important, but it just feels we are on the brink of something here and I really hope this is the start of a exciting next 3-5 year phase for the club. We finally have a manager and players, who whilst unproven, we can relate to them and we know they will be giving everything to try and make this work. They have brought my enjoyment of football back and hopefully we can get another 3pts on the board tomorrow.
  46. 1 point
  47. 1 point
    Best game I’ve ever seen. All this talk of VAR and the Aussies burnt their last review on a no hoper appeal, only to need it to win. Utterly glorious.
  48. 1 point
    I think there probably is an agenda there. But not necessarily an anti-Chelsea one. It's a pro-VAR/pro-officiating one. They've likely been briefed to justify the decisions at all costs. Walton's going to defend it and I imagine we'll be seeing a lot more of that over the course of the season.
  49. 1 point
    Thats absolutely fine. If you don't want to discuss the incidence with Tammy and Pogba without first a full and rounded condemnation of all racism then you should do that. And I too would be concerned if an outsider read these pages and came across anything resembling racist comments or behaviour or in any way condoning the abuse that Tammy and Pogba got. But I'd be equally disappointed if this site allowed such comments to remain on view for more than a few minutes. And if I go off piste on this subject I'm sure someone will let me know pdq. This thread is talking about the abuse that Tammy got. It is not a thread entitled Racism in Football , although if there was one I'd be happy to right a piece for that and my personal experiences. This is about Tammy and subsequently Pogba receiving abuse from their own fans. For me (and I may be wrong) that is the talking point. I don't think we had a thread last season when our players received racist abuse in the stands from Eastern European fans, or a thread when our fans got homophobic abuse from oppo fans, or a thread about anti semetic abuse aimed at Spurs fans. Maybe all these deserved their own thread and maybe if you felt strongly enough you should have started one. And yes , of course your feelings don't matter that much and neither do mine (unless either of us are an ethnic minority). But that does not change the undeniable fact that these tweets MAY not have had racism at their core (indeed they could have been written by a person of colour) but could have had a different motive I.e opposition fans enjoying an opportunity to blacken a clubs name. And if it works they might do it again and again and again. At what point would you stand up and say "ok maybe we need to consider where this home abuse ' is coming from". Maybe with yourself , at no point, and thats absolutely fine ; but I don't like the feeling that I'm being censured for making a perfectly valid point and following as closely as these 2/3 incidents did , I think its worth discussing . And if I went onto the Red Cafe sight and found a similar discussion taking place I would accuse them of grabbing the wrong end of an already grubby stick. I can sense that it is not a subject people like to discuss on here or join in on for fear I expect of saying a wrong word in a wrong way and being jumped upon. However I am very comfortable with my position on this subject and I'm sorry your seeing something you dont like.
  50. 1 point
    This is exactly where I am. Lampard being here for the foreseeable, and bringing through James, Mount, RLC, CHO etc is more important than trophies for me over the next few years.