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  1. 4 points
    There’s one well coached team out there and it isn’t us. I honestly can’t wait until Sarri leaves.
  2. 4 points
    Can we just carry on not playing? We seem to be doing much better in the race for the top 4 when we are not actually on the pitch!
  3. 3 points
    Re point number 1 - We've been a mid-table side since the turn of the new year and our form reflects that. There just hasn't been enough progression shown to be convinced that we're heading in the right direction with Sarri as manager. While a top four finish, Europa League final and League Cup final may look like a solid return on paper, the reality on the pitch has been anything but convincing to warrant those results. We owe a lot to the horrendous form of Arsenal, Tottenham and Man Utd for the way they've closed out the season, opposed to our own good performances. While we had one of the easiest and most favourable Europa League runs imaginable. The one competitive team we did face in Frankfurt, still saw us struggle and rely on penalties to squeeze past. Is a pre-season and possibly a few extra players going to change much in the way Sarri approaches management? Unlikely. Re point number 2 - While RLC has grown this season, a lot of that has come from playing proper senior football last season at Palace for the first time. Sarri will have refined some areas, but lets not act like this is the same RLC of 3-4 years ago that Sarri inherited either. CHO improved - yet his change largely came about because of Bayern's interest and fan pressure. Up until then Sarri wasn't giving him a sniff whatsoever. Barkley is neither here nor there. Personally, I think he's regressed from the player that used to play at Everton - particularly in an attacking sense. Rudiger looks no better or worse than he was under Conte. Emerson similarly no better than he was when he was playing at Roma pre-injury. Still also took Sarri 6 months of the season to finally give him a proper look in also. Jorginho has looked better, but that's largely down to becoming more comfortable with the Premier League than anything else and little to do with Sarri himself. Higuain isn't going to improve because he's a 32 year old striker who has been on a visible decline for the past 18 months. Sarri or no Sarri, Higuain is no longer a top striker any more. That's the reality of where he's at in his career now, it happens to everyone eventually. With us likely to lose Hazard in the coming weeks, a transfer ban that's yet to be postponed, a squad that is still miles away from being where it needs to be, and the last 6 months of football being some of the most uninspiring and dullest seen in in the RA era, you can't really blame anyone if they're yet to be convinced that moving forward with Sarri to be the best thing.
  4. 3 points
    Sarri confirms RLC came off with cramp. Sarri got booed because RLC wasn't fit enough to complete the match so he replaced him with Barkley; maybe to avoid confusion in the future he should hold a board up with the reason why he's making his substitutions.
  5. 2 points
    RLC was definitely starting the final and even arguably our best player other than Eden for the last month plus. If you can’t acknowledge his performance levels for that last period of time you are probably never going to. And playing regularly, getting confident and experienced was the only thing lacking for him. Building on this great run of form could see him take his game to another level next season. He is obviously not there yet, «there» being a game-changing midfielder like Lampard or Essien, but I definitely think he has the ability and mentality to get there. And this season showed how far he could get in just a few appearances.
  6. 2 points
    I'm not sure if this is pointed at these boards but people really started to turn during a run of embarrassing results where Sarri refused to change our approach, and our players appeared completely uninspired by him. Judging form the match day threads that was based on posters watching the games and forming an opinion, nothing to do with the media and I'm not even sure what that part of your post means tbh. Once Sarri showed he was willing to be a bit more flexible and changed things up attitudes towards him also changed, there is certainly more of a split of pro and anti than there was in January. I agree that fans in the stadium have a duty to cheer on the team and booing is unacceptable and counter productive. The only player/manager to get such abuse was Benitez which was almost a perfect storm of circumstances and I can understand that. It would be interesting to hear from those fans that have been chanting F Sari Ball etc to see why they feel so different towards him, whether it his him, a general frustration, or fans becoming too entitled and their behaviour changing. Personally I think it is a general frustration that we have gone form challenging in Europe to challenging to qualify for Europe, the complacency shown where we have not progressed after triumphs, and also quite importantly the fact that two hated rivals in Liverpool and Spurs appear to be better run than us, play better football than us, and have been getting better results than us (some of those points are arguable) I think some of this is being directed at the manager as people don't want to vent at Roman or the board of his trusted advisors. As a club the people running us appear to always be at odds with the last few managers rather than genuinely working with them in the manner that City, Liverpool and Spurs to some degree do. You could say there is a 'palpable discord' all over the shop which has got us to where we are today.
  7. 2 points
    Funny to see comments suggesting RLC could have easily been injured in training. Yes he could have but he wasn't. He was injured in a meaningless game on a cabbage-patch pitch.
  8. 2 points
    Well the fact that Loftus Cheek was recently subbed twice due to cramping-up might be a sign that the guy probably needed a rest. Also to what extent are the injuries of Rudiger and Kante down to being overplayed and Sarri’s well known aversion to rotating his squad? Injuries happen at anytime. But suddenly we’ve got a spate of them at the business end of the season. And Kante apart, all pretty serious and similar types.
  9. 2 points
    and the injury couldn't have happened then? Is it frustrating yes, but as the poster above said, it could have happened during training, during warm up for the final. Yes he could have played a crucial part in the final, but if we can't beat Arsenal just because a bit part player, admittedly a good one, is out of the final, we might as well not bother turning up.
  10. 2 points
    Me and my Dad are going. My Dad was at Stockholm and we were both at Moscow. Another chapter in our fanaticism for this club. I’m a rare example of someone that is actually interested in seeing Azerbaijan. We’re Turkish, and Azerbaijani people are basically the same ethnicity as us, their language is 90% mutually intelligible with ours (grammatical structure is the same, it’s just differences in vocab and accent) and historically they called themselves Turks but the Turkish part of their identity was played down and “Azerbaijani” identity played up by their Russian rulers to avoid possible unity with Turkey (classic divide and conquer). So it will be weird to be in a foreign country where we know the language and can easily communicate with the locals. Though of course I understand and appreciate the criticisms of the logistical nightmare that the host selection has caused. Adds a whole new meaning to “wherever they go, we’ll follow our team” in Blue Flag, “We all follow the Chelsea over land and sea” and “Carefree, wherever you may be”. CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE! WE’VE DONE IT BEFORE!
  11. 2 points
    Somehow failed our way into third its unprecedented luck
  12. 2 points
    I was there last night. In my usual seat as a season ticket holder. MHL Row Y near the West Stand wraparound - so my comments apply to that part of the ground. There was a constant low-level rumble of moaning from people around me - not all of them, but a significant number of long-timers (generally male, generally older) - ironically, this moaning sometimes broke into chants of 'We're supposed to be at home' - so they will sing about us not singing, but won't sing for us! When RLC was subbed (probably for all the good reasons explained by thevelourfrog there was booing - followed immediately by a quick chant of 'F*** Sarri-ball' - this was soon drowned out by a louder, positive chant from the bunch behind the goal. At one point, a guy a few rows down from me turned round and had a real go at the moaners - words to this effect: even if you don't like Sarri, what good does it do Chelsea to boo? Well done that guy. I've posted on here before about the constant moaning in my part of the ground. There have been games this season when I've thought about not going - nothing to do with Sarri, nothing to do with our team - entirely because I could hardly face the thought of the whinging Bs around me! When you think about the atmosphere created at Liverpool on Tuesday - you have to put your hands up and say: we are not a top four Crowd! I honestly believe our home support is sometimes a contributory factor to our less than passionate performances. The players need lifting. Support for your football team (in my mind) is unequivocal not dependent on waiting for the team to play well before you cheer. I never boo. There, glad I got that off my chest.
  13. 2 points
    Listening to the radio last night after the game and the consensus from Chelsea supporters seemed to accord with my view, we really have no business contesting a European final after the season we've experienced. Lack of consistency. Lack of motivation. Lack of application. Lack of pretty much everything at some point over the season. It's more a reflection on the rest of Europe than it is on our club. Arrizabalaga at least deserves much credit for keeping us in it during the game and saving the two penalties. Hazard however may as well not been playing for his contribution during the course of the 120 minutes. Jorginho reverted to type. Kovacic has no place whatsoever in any role on the pitch. Higuain too adds nothing and last night Giroud was not needed as a striker. Sarri's apparent design is for us to walk the ball into the net which may be admirable however when you have no midfield capable of any invention, especially when RLC is subbed for Barkley, this becomes patently impossible. Our defense is not bad however, equally, it isn't great and when you put midfielders in front of it who are incapble of, defending you are asking for trouble. We are a collection of individuals some of whom are reasonably gifted however, as has been demonstrated over the season, when we come up against an organised team we get found out and I fear that will happen in Baku at the end of the month. Bittersweet emotions here at the house of mole.
  14. 2 points
    If Dave hadn't played the whole season and we were in this position, Sarri would be getting blamed for not playing Dave. We've become negative as fans and massively in the stadium. The away team wants it more because their fans are playing with them, our team is playing against 13 players, the 12th is their fans and the 13th is ours.
  15. 2 points
    I would like to pay tribute to Gary Cahill on a personal level.I met him twice in portugal first time I got a picture taken with him,second time he was sitting beside myself and my wife in a restaurant and he remembered us.Gary I salute you sir for the wonderful professional footballer you are but more importantly I salute you as a human being.
  16. 2 points
    Strange isn't it that here we are all worried if we can beat Watford on our own patch to try and finish in the top four, how we have fallen in status and quality these past few years. Sarri gets the blame right now but this has been going on for several years because of a failure of the board to strengthen our team when we were at our strongest. Now to even think about catching City or Liverpool it will take several years I think if we are lucky. Too bad isn't it :( Edit: All the best to Cahill who has been nothing short of class over the years he has been with us, won everything and I am really angry by the way he has been treated.
  17. 2 points
    Consistently inconsistent?
  18. 2 points
  19. 2 points
    You know how people try and try for years to have children , mortgaging their houses , downgrading their cars to pay for IVF and finally after years and years they have a miracle baby . That goal was like that only more unlikely.
  20. 2 points
    Through on penalties ! Excellent stuff .
  21. 2 points
    Don't wish to be pedantic but "The TFSW" is another example of Redundant Acronym Syndrome or RAS Syndrome for short.
  22. 2 points
    Les Ferdinand ranting about racism in football and demanding that clubs whose fans are guilty of racism are banned from whatever competition it happens in. Amazingly the Sky reporter says " What about the incident where Sterling was racially abused at Chelsea? Should Chelsea be kicked out of the Premier League?". He answers yes. I've got a few issues with this, ex Spud Les. Firstly it has been proven that he wasn't racially abused at Chelsea unless you include anti Manchester abuse. Tick tock on the public apology. Secondly why not use the example of the proven racism by a SPURS fan who threw a banana at Aubamayang that same week and ask whether Spurs should be banned?
  23. 2 points
    Quite a successful season for the academy products then - Reece James has made the the EFL team of the season, and is nailed on as Wigan's POTY. Tammy made the PFA Championship team of the season. Fikayo Tomori was named Derby's player of the season. Mason Mount has drawn plaudits and earned an England call up. CHO has worked his way into the first 11 for club and country. For an academy to produce such a number of players under the age of 21 who are the best at their club, or in the league, should be considered a great achievement even at championship level. These are players we have actually produced as well rather than the late teen imports, hopefully the previous generation is cashed in this summer and the funds invested in the first team.
  24. 2 points
    I miss watching entire games on Ceefax.
  25. 1 point
    Friends, but in no way rival. One is clear the senior, the other accepted that as soon as he signed up to Derby. The pecking order is clear. JT and Lampard, perhaps not quite as close as the press would have it, are still rivals - for the Chelsea and England captain to take 2nd place to his former vice-captain would be awkward to say the least.
  26. 1 point
    Haha, people will find any way to blame old Maurizio.
  27. 1 point
    You can see why they hate him at West Ham. Far too clever to troll.
  28. 1 point
    Good luck to the guy whatever he decides. I have to say he could have handled the speculation a bit better IMO and, if he does leave, it’s a bit like Robben where you know that we are losing one of our best players but, at the same time, there are reasons why maybe it’s the right decision for all parties. I think the club will do well to get as much money, maybe pick up Bale or Asensio if we can and then we move on. People are comparing losing this guy to RM losing Ronaldo or Barcelona losing Messi, but this isn’t a player who has been producing tremendous stats like those guys consistently that would be nearly impossible to replicate. In reality, if we get a guy in who bags 15 goals a season we would never even notice that Hazard is missing IMO. Hazard is a guy, like Sarri identified, who is more of an individual talent. I’m not 100% sure whether his potential departure is really going to affect us as much as people think.
  29. 1 point
    Highest up the wall or if I recall furthest out of Classroom H onto the playground.
  30. 1 point
  31. 1 point
    Bang on. But we are in the final. I know you don’t have a decent thing to say about Sarri, but with this constant moaning what’s the point? If you can’t even be happy about a League Cup final, a third place finish and a European Cup final then the problem might not be the level of performance, the manager or even the players... Just a thought... But this is the problem. Our fans are so entitled and spoilt they won’t do anything to lift the players. They are waiting for the players to entertain them. It’s not the theatre or the movies. It’s football! You’re supposed to be there for the love of the club and to help support them on the field! The vast majority of away fans still have this mindset. But even there the balance is starting to shift over to these entitled spoilt brats who boo the manager and players. Absolutely disgraceful and I will never respect a fan doing that. In my book that fan basically only proved to me he or she is a glory hunter. Real fans despise those fans. Real fans don’t boo, they sing and support no matter what.
  32. 1 point
    Their fans have been through a lot more than ours in recent history. If anything they should have lost faith and sat there waiting for the team to do something, instead they turn up and put an atmosphere into place pre-game that gives all the club staff inspiration and motivation; and even intimidates the opposition. Our lot have recently been waiting for an opportunity to intimidate their own manger. I said this yesterday and I'll say it again, but it pains me to say it... Our fans have become just like Arsenal TV fans, they put their football manager hats on and think it's as easy as changing a few things around like a computer screen We have a manager who has had his first season in having to figure out which players he can use in the future and which he can't, he has kept the likes of RLC instead of loaning them out, he has given Odoi a chance (and he kept warning us he needed to get stronger and in the end he was right). Every year the pundits get on our back, every year we have to fight against the grain, but this time we've lost that battle, we've let them break us and make us believe we don't deserve anything out of the season. Thing is the players see their fans boo their manager, they're only human and will be all the happy to shift blame when they fail, effectively the fans have given the players every reason to not fly into tackles, zoom around the pitch and play as a team; because they're ready to blame the guy on the sidelines who can't do it for them. Also even the studio picked up and highlighted Sarri urging his players to push out and press just before their goal, he saw it coming and our players chose to ignore the instruction (much to the frustration of Sarri), it lead to a goal and Sarri got the blame, we as fans have become our own poison.
  33. 1 point
  34. 1 point
    Sort of. Now the whole FIFA process is complete we can go to the Arbitration body for Sport, CAS, and appeal the FIFA decision. They (probably) can suspend the ban until they have looked at the case. No - this is all as expected, and just as in previous cases. It is actually good news - in that the worry was the FIFA Appeal would be late, and we could not go to CAS before the ban started.
  35. 1 point
    You say his strike rate hasn't been that bad but it has been worse than bad. 5 goals in 16 games but three in the same game and four against two relegated sides. Anelka was 28 in January 2008, lightening quick and a proven player in this league. Higuain is clearly past it. He is slow, immobile and ineffective against any decent opposition. He is a failed gamble and needs to be consigned to history.
  36. 1 point
    Well, you clearly believe Conte left us in a mess in fifth but Mourinho didn't in tenth so whose fooling who.
  37. 1 point
    So... Sarri has achieved his first goal. Champions Legaue qualification. On to the next now - a trophy. But considering the absolutely lacklustre season we had last season. The way the squad was slaughtered, the ridiculously unbalanced squad he has had at his disposal, Sarri has done a very good job. 👏
  38. 1 point
    Awful first half. The only player from the first half with any credit was Kepa for an important save. Second half was mostly very good. Much more intensity. RLC was my man of the match. He's a stylish player on the ball. If only he can overcome that back problem. His goal came at a very important time of the game, bearing in mind our recent record after the break. Pleased for Higuain as he has been surviving on scraps. His 2 goals recently showed what he's capable of given some decent service. Great to see Cahill getting a cameo at the end. I genuinely welled up when Dave gave him the armband. I wish him the absolute best. The final day of the season is going to be really nerve-racking, especially because, as things stand, we can still finish between 3rd and 5th. Leicester won't lie down. KTBFFH 💙
  39. 1 point
    ☹️ (Thanks pet 🙄)
  40. 1 point
    I think Arsenal are the only surprise there. Spurs have been playing above themselves in the CL, three City games in 11 days was always going to be the end of their season, whatever the result, and a typical Spurs crash was inevitable. Sneaky idea of Bournemouth's to invite a ref to the game, perhaps we can steal that idea next time. Man U - like a team of teenagers - huge runs of success based on overconfidence and huge runs of defeats based on underconfidence. And if you look at the men of character in that team, they are teenagers. They'll be demanding OGS out soon, while he is still perfect manager for the board - you can sack OGS anytime and no one will complain. Man U's RDM. Man U have 2 relegated teams left - should be close games. Considering our one loss was at Liverpool, who have won their last 8 PL games, Chelsea haven't done too badly.
  41. 1 point
    Set piece goals are for losers , that's why we don't bother working on scoring or defending them.
  42. 1 point
    3 cup finals and a possible cup final/trophy...Gotta go for it and that includes us supporters, forget whether Sarri is your cup of tea surely you support Chelsea and therefore whoever picks the team and represents us on the pitch? My prediction a rocky ride but 3 points for this one
  43. 1 point
    I tend to buy the shirts at the end of the seasons I have enjoyed. So I have them for 1996-7, 2004-5 and 05-06, 09-10 and so on. It's a memento of the season. If we have a great season, I will get a shirt. However, I reserve the right to get a second strip one :-)
  44. 1 point
    The funniest thing was the commentators saying how quiet Messi had been and how well Liverpool had done keeping him quiet, right before his first goal and a magnificent last 30 minutes from him.
  45. 1 point
    That would explain why Arsenal have won more games than us this sea... Oh wait. Well, maybe last sea... Oh, not then either. A collective madness seems to have descended here recently. It's been a stressful season, we all deserve the coming break. I know one thing about Frankfurt; they have a player called Nelson Mandela.
  46. 1 point
    Well they've managed 3rd in a 2 horse race before. One of their FB fan sites shared this before today's game 😂
  47. 1 point
    If there's one thing about our club that makes me proud its our marvellous under 19s. Just came back twice against Barca and then won the penalty shoot out. Into the CL final again. Take a bow.
  48. 1 point
    Being stronger than last season by far after only buying one outfield player and getting the best out of our key players is probably the biggest endorsement I have heard for keeping Sarri as manager.
  49. 1 point
  50. 1 point
    Sorry to go off topic, but the current situation in the league and European cups is alarming me. Am I right in thinking that if we finish fourth but Arsenal win the Europa League and Spurs win the Champions League, we drop into the Europa League? I mean it's a possibility...