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  1. 5 points
    Perspective, please. We are champions. We reached the semi-finals of the Carabao, we are still in the FA Cup and CL - most importantly, by far, in a league this competitive, we are pretty well placed at 3rd in the PL. The squad (trust me) is the envy of many of the fans of other clubs I know. Yes, my Spurs, United and Arsenal fans also shake their heads in disbelief at their respective Boards' ineptness and rant about their crap players. Playing the 'long serving fan' card is a bit boring, but I do it here for a good reason, to reassure you all that, looking back over 52 years at the Bridge (I debuted in old North Stand, aged 2, in 1962) - we never had it so good! Enjoy the debate here, but don't lose that all important perspective. Crisis, what crisis?
  2. 5 points
    My guess is (and it's only a guess) that a lot of members on here are probably sick to the back teeth of reading about how defensive we are. The point may well be right but the repetition of it ad nausiem does grate somewhat.
  3. 4 points
    I am not trying to sound patronising here but have you had the oppotunity to watch him live? I ask as I have witnessed most of his performances owing to my season ticket and ability to go to most of our games away as well. From my perspective Bats all round game is really really poor. I say this as he is an incrediably static forward, as he makes hardly any discernable runs off the ball, his close controll is average at best and he is not able to hold the ball up either. For me, the only way he makes it here is if we go two up front and tell him to literally play the width of the posts and try to only play between the penalty spot and six yard area as he only real quality of note is his finishing. Honestly, when I see him play I struggle to think of a forward that has been as poor as him and have to go back to Furlong. As Kezman at least had an ability to get around and make a bit of a nuisance of himself. Furthermore, this playing style of his also explains why he has been noticeable booed by Chelsea fans before and his substitution celebrated because whilst he has decent stats these mask his all round game. This constrast with Morata who whilst having poor stats generally gets the backing of the crowd (bar the back end if last season when he kept falling down) as he does a lot of good work off the ball that is not necessarily noticed. Now do not get me wrong, Morata needs to go through a remarkable up turn or be replaced. However, Bats is in no way or shape the answer.
  4. 4 points
    I don't think disliking Liverpool has anything to do with the city. After all, there are lots of decent Everton fans there. I may make jokes about it being the world's largest open prison, but it's a joke, not meant to be taken seriously. What I hate about Liverpool (as an English football institution) is its hypocrisy and sanctimony. Liverpool was a very average side until the late 1950s. However, they were bankrolled by the Moores and became very successful. As a result, vast numbers of people from all over the country began to support them because they were successful especially in the pro-Merseyside culture of the 60s. We would call them JCLs. Their "history" is really not that different to that of Man Utd. Man Utd were also a very average side until the 50s when they were bankrolled by the Gibsons and the Edwards. However, like Liverpool's promotion of themselves as part of the "Merseyside" culture, Man Utd's success is as much to do with the Munich Air Disaster as what happened on the pitch. This is how history is. Collections of events have unexpected outcomes. When the likes of LFC and MUFC fans talk of lack of history and glory hunters, it is the height of hypocrisy. Their fans are as much JCLs as everyone else, it just happened at a different time. Their fans have no more "class" than the fans of any other club because the fan base reflects the society from which it is drawn and is not specific to a particular club or clubs. The problem with sides like Man Utd and Liverpool is that they mythologise their past. They present the current state of affairs as the way it has always been. They forget that the big clubs of the pre-war period were the likes of Everton, Arsenal, Newcastle and, for a short period, Huddersfield. I am not saying they had no success but that they were not dominant. Moreover, because of their rise in support, vast numbers of the commentators and pundits also support one or other of those sides and they reinforce the mythology because of self-interest. Pundits are useful when they can present the "inside track" of a club. Of course, commercial interests kick in as well. Everyone knows that organisations that have a commercial interest in the game, seek to reinforce their position by promoting popular outcomes. UEFA do it with the CL and FIFA with the World Cup. The FA and the Premier League have an interest in promoting the interests of clubs with more support over those with less because that enhances their TV revenues. Even PGMOL know this. The consequence is that Liverpool and Man United have become a pernicious institution. We broke that down for a while (as have Man City) but not for long enough for the gravity not to reassert itself and we will probably return to the previous arrangements. However, I reserve my greatest ire for LFC because of the sense of victimhood that emanates from that club in particular. It is always someone else's fault even to the point of farce. Many Chelsea fans remember the LFC chief executive pointing out the London accents at Heysel and suggesting that it must be Chelsea fans causing the problems. As a result, I fully expect "death threats to Karius" being blamed on rogue Chelsea supporters pretending to be LFC fans. I accept that we have some nasty elements in our support because we have some nasty elements in society. I contend that the problem with LFC as a club is that it does not accept the same - that they have fans who are vile. They focus on the victimhood. I see clubs like Bradford, Rangers and so on who have experienced disasters in the past holding respectful commemorations of those tragedies, but not on the scale of LFC who expect every club in the country to mourn their loss while conveniently ignoring the death of 26 fans from Juventus, let alone the casual violence and the destruction of property. And yet, LFC is promoted as a bastion of saintly virtue. "Those Anfield Nights..." that are truly no different to any other club. I hear the reverence in soft tones of the "history and tradition" of the club. It is not their right to history and tradition I reject but their right to denigrate mine. It comes to a point where the punk in me wants my club to promote ideas that do not have the soft, cloying smell of sanctimony that so often emanates from its hallowed portal.
  5. 4 points
    Interesting that Rangers are considering St Stevie Me for the Manager's role next season. Shrewd. If anyone can prevent Brendan Rodgers winning a league title it's him 🙄
  6. 4 points
    I think your view may have been obscured then , what actually happened was he took of Willian who was playing like he didn't know who Giroud and Hazard were and what all the people running around in blue shirts were doing , brought on Bakayoko and moved Fabregas forward to replace Willian , once it was evident that once more Fabregas legs had given up the ghost he quickly remedied the situation and brought on Pedro . During this period we scored one goal and could have scored another two as well. It appears a lot of people have had enough ? What ? Enough of Cup finals ? I think everybody wrongly thought " Here we go again , bloody Italian managers with their negative football , holding on for a one nil win " and that's not what actually happened , unfortunately the changed occurred just as Southampton decided to give it a go , possibly thinking the same . What annoys me the most about any of this is the fact that every week people are posting on here about " Bloody Conte replacing like for like , a left back for a left back etc etc" and when he does actually change one type of player for another they're still moaning , retrospectively , even though the substitution worked out fine. Mind you as a Conte apologist I suppose I would say that. Lets hope he doesn't annoy anyone further by winning the thing and , horror upon horrors actually stays . urgh.
  7. 4 points
    James, give Mark his phone back.....
  8. 4 points
    This almost reads like youre saying we miss Matic's presence in the middle ;-)
  9. 4 points
  10. 4 points
    I see Greg Clark from the FA has come out today and expressed concern that the general public has lost trust in the organisation! Well I can only speak for myself but I have always had about as much trust in the FA as I have for the bloke who keeps phoning me up asking about the accident I never had. But just to recap. The FA dragged John Terry over the coals, ruined his England career, humiliated him as much as they possible could over the claims that he muttered a racist slur on a football pitch after being elbowed in the head. No one heard this slur and no one saw it but a QPR fan said it looked a bit like it on telly. Terry was cleared in a court of law but the FA wanted their pound of flesh and they got....Terry's head on a plate. Now it appears that one of the FA's employees made unacceptable racist comments to England female footballer Aluko. The FA then quietly paid off Aluko on the condition that she kept her mouth shut. The only time she was to open it was to confirm that the FA was not a racist organisation . She said it felt like blackmail. JT is probably having a rye smile over this. He was one of the best English skippers in modern history and they hung him out to dry. Now this bunch of lying, self serving, hypocritical weasels know exactly how it feels to be tarred with a racist brush. And no we don't trust you. Never have never will. FIFA light is what you are.
  11. 3 points
    Ok Ham, so I’ve pondering on our Copacabana song for Thibault and I’ve come up with a few ideas. But if we want to make this a mega hit we also need to think about the video because that’s what will send the song viral. So picture the scene. We are in a small bar nightclub anywhere in the world…could be Madrid, could be Battersea, but that’s not important. It’s all shot in black and white (think Michael Jackson Smooth Criminal vid to get the vibe). A dozen small candlelit tables are just visible through the smoke and the gloom. On the small stage are a mariachi band playing the unmistakeable intro to Barry Manillo’s ‘Copacabana’. Suddenly a spotlight falls on one of the tables. Who does it light up? It’s only Thibault Courtois out for a drink with one of his kids!..... no hang on….that’s not his kid, it’s his 18 year old dog sitter (easy mistake, it’s gloomy in there). Now permit me to divert for a moment, but how lucky a chap is Thibault? Not only is he a multi-millionaire sportsman but just when his marriage got a bit shaky, a dog sitter arrived at the house looking like she just walked off the pages of Loaded Magazine! I mean fancy getting a bit of totty like that to look after your poodle for the minimum wage when you’ve just fallen out of love with your pregnant wife!! Or….alternatively…did me meet her down China Whites and get her to apply for the job of dog sitter and then fix her up in the spare room so she was available 24/7 for “dog sitting”? Anyway, that’s my imagination running away with me again, and I’m not questioning in any way Thibault’s loyalty, honesty or qualities as a man. Now back to the video. One of the band members moves towards the mic and starts to sing the first verse to Copacabana. “His name was Courtois, we thought he’d go far Had his shorts cut down to there, with too much Brylcream in his hair He signed for Chelsea, the super Chelsea But he acted like a kid, said ‘I’m off to Real Madrid’ And then the punches flew Contracts were torn in two Wrote a love note to the fans but they said… “Fck You” (CHORUS) Coz we’re the Chelsea, the super Chelsea Why don’t you piss off somewhere elsey (poetic licence)? We are Chelsea, the super Chelelelsea He could have got fitter but chose the dog sitter At the Chelseaee…. He lost his mind.... Is that unkind?..... Well I don’t mind.... I can’t get fined"..... (music fades out to clips of the ball flying past him before he could move and also examples of him giving away his record number of penalties for other teams to score against him….coz he’s never saved one). I think we have a potential hit Ham. Like I say, straight 70/30 copyright split between me and you ….luvelyjubly!!
  12. 3 points
    To the tune of Barry Manilow's Cococabana... "His name is Kepa, but he's our sweeper - he comes from Athletico Bilbao and he's our Kepa- Sweeper now!"
  13. 3 points
    The last two managers have both clearly stated they don't buy the players . Both of them . One repeatedly . Sarri has even fleshed the process out for the hard of thinking in saying he tells the club the type of player he needs and the attributes they should have and leaves it to them to identify and sign them. Believing that Conte was to blame for the desperate signings of multiple injured players was just another stick to beat him with when he shouldered the entire blame for a poor season where everyone failed at their jobs , from the board through the playing staff.
  14. 3 points
    Similar to us. Two teams in Fulham and yet the world refers to us as Chelsea FC and Fulham as "who?"
  15. 3 points
    Day 16 : Still no sign of rescue. Still stuck in a leaky lifeboat with a man who's only credentials are a league winners medal and FA cup winners medal in two seasons. Many have already abandoned ship , the Captain , the first mate , all gone , rumours abound that others may also jump ship. Flares sent out . We await salvation.
  16. 3 points
    Except literally hundred of thousands, even millions, of people have died as a result of homophobia, tens of millions as a result of bigotry. Framing it as 'people take offence' is nonsense. We are sending a very crappy and indeed injurious message to an often injured LGBTQ people in, if we are indeed doing so, appointing Sarri.
  17. 3 points
    Pardon me butting in to a private argument. Terry and Lampard were too busy winning all the awards that matter, winning all the trophies that matter and consistently working their backsides off for the club they genuinely loved. That's what 100% proper Chelsea means. Willian is very talented but he hasn't completely proved himself and what he did on Instagram was petulant and unprofessional.
  18. 3 points
    I'd looked after myself and at 58 could do 5 miles in 33 minutes, 10k in around 44 minutes and had a job in a timber yard carrying 24 ft lengths of 9x3. Three years later after an immune disease, I can't run more than 50 yards and can't do a press up. Lost nearly 60 years of fitness at a stroke. If you've got it, enjoy it people, you never know what's around the corner. Its FA cup day and we're in it. Got to enjoy it if you are a fan. Come on you Blues!!
  19. 3 points
    93 points was the second highest ever (at the time). Irrespective of good start / bad start, it is an incredibly high number. We won the league by winning so many games. not because of others failings. If you are going to be matter of fact about it, unless a team is in first place from game 1, and wins every game thereafter, there is an element of relying on other teams to slip up. That is what a league competition is.
  20. 3 points
    Why doesn't that surprise me
  21. 3 points
    The whole point of signing Salah, De Bruyne, Lukaku and even Shurrle was to not take it 1 season at a time; but produce a squad of players for a large number of seasons. That's around £250-300M worth of players that we got for peanuts, our so called business plan of buying the next big talent was thrown into the shredder; and yes, by a manager who thought about his own trophy list before he self destructs. Salah improves any team at any time. Well Hazard certainly needs rotation now, and would actually lose his place to Salah, we lack consistency from the likes of Hazard because we sold all his competition. The biggest frustration is we went from a club who everyone wanted to play for in the PL to everyone's feeder club. We've got far too many ex Chelsea players sitting in teams above us and producing better results than the players we currently have; it's beyond a joke. I'm not going to hide that I blame Jose too, in order to act the big man in the league he fed his own ego for quick fire results that cost us in the long run. The thing is it isn't Hindsight, it's frustration at the incompetency of the people who make decisions at the club. A club who is now making budget deals because they sold quality players who are now producing for our direct competition. Simply add De Bruyne, Salah, Mata, Lukaku to our team and we're up there with the elite in Europe; we gave away our own ability to be an elite team. Right now we'd be talking about 2 signings in defence and that's it, where as now we need to look at far more than that.
  22. 3 points
    Hope so. He's a brilliant player but he has a major flaw in his game somewhere, whatever it is it stops him from becoming one of the greats; he has gone from being one of the next big talents to being over shadowed week in week out. To maybe explain it better... When players like Salah, Sanchez, De Bruyne, Sane or Silva (or even lesser players) pick the ball up in the final third instantly I think the other team is in danger, when Hazard picks it up he actually surprises me when he runs at a team nowadays, otherwise it's backwards sideways or he switches the ball to Moses and stands on the opposite side of the pitch, he done it countless times against Leicester; Hazard was the most fouled player last season for a reason, because he actually engaged the opposition where as this season he has taken a back seat.
  23. 3 points
    Haven't seen this one posted here for a while lol COME ON YOU BLUES!!! We can do it if we play our game and not be timid and lose focus. Let's go! Super pumped for this one!
  24. 3 points
  25. 3 points
    It upsets people because its absolute garbage. We are going to get knocked out of Europe by Barcelona , we all know it , but afterwards , regardless of how we played , how well we perform and how many golden opportunities to score goals our forwards spurn, you'll be on here choking up the forum with more utter cobblers about defensive formations. Thats why.
  26. 3 points
    Anyone got a stream that doesn't work ? I can still see mine .
  27. 3 points
    For the record, I don't have a single problem with what City are doing - they're planning for domination. it's unapologetic and without a single shred of kowtowing. If we showed a similar attitude at any point over the last fifteen years, we could have built something special, but it's like every league title win of ours has been followed by an apology delivered though the medium of self-inflicted damage.
  28. 3 points
  29. 3 points
    RE: Sanchez - why do people even care if he's 29, and would be getting the wages that's being mentioned? Surely it's about improving the team no? Our job as Chelsea fans is to worry about what happens on the pitch. And as it stands, there are a lot of improvements that have to be made. Sanchez would be one hell of an improvement. In fact, getting an Alexis Sanchez-esque type of player might actually encourage the likes of Hazard and Courtois to actually sign their extensions. Whether we're actually in for him or not is irrelevant, but I'm sorry, no-one can tell me that getting Sanchez would be a negative move given what we currently have at our disposal. And if you do, you're lying.
  30. 3 points
    I think it's a bit harsh to blame Bakayoko when Morata could and should have scored four goals. I've been saying it all season , we can complain all we like about , too many defenders or setting up negatively , if nobody apart from your defenders can score a goal you're screwed. Morata's finishing was appalling. Great movement , clever , couldn't hit a cows ass with a banjo.
  31. 3 points
    I suggest you get down to an opticians pronto!
  32. 2 points
    Jorginho's mum in with the away fans yesterday. She's a one-off!
  33. 2 points
    1) Nice reasoned argument. Leicester winning the prem in the current environment was head and shoulders the greatest managerial achievement. 2) You sound like a scouser. We weren't already winning trophies for the previous 7 years and qualifying for the CL before he arrived? We aren't Citeh. Now that was a turd that polished up well Between you, Kezza and Gormless Gorman we don't really need banter from oppo fans. You all seem to genuinely hate the club.
  34. 2 points
    I'm not sure they could improve - he has been brilliant for us, brilliant.
  35. 2 points
    https://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/sarri-chelsea-positive-signals-wednesday-could-be-decisive Yay! We're getting Jorginho! http://www.insidefutbol.com/2018/07/10/jorginho-prefers-manchester-city-move-over-chelsea/382207/ Boo! We're not getting Jorginho.
  36. 2 points
    We can go back further than that... he didn't particularly want to join us in the first place, but AM needed the money for other players they were targeting. He was restless from the minute he arrived, and the only thing that stopped him from rejoining AM sooner was their lack of funds. Eventually they were able to buy him back, and he couldn't wait to go back. His restlessness wasn't down to Mourinho (remember him disdainfully/petulantly tossing his bib at JM when it was clear he'd be an unused substitute after being dropped for a poor run of form?) or Conte... it was Costa wanting to go back from the day he arrived and waiting for the right moment.
  37. 2 points
    BBC now showing the changing rooms , behind every shirt in the United dressing room there's a message from the fans : Good luck lads ! You can do it ! Fran aged 7 . I'm imagining the Chelsea ones say "Conte out!" Martin 1905:.
  38. 2 points
    Well done the Chelsea ladies for winning the double. One game to go in the premier league and still unbeaten too.
  39. 2 points
    Re: 1 - What he knows about you he gets from your contributions on here. What you may or may not be like elsewhere is totally irrelevant. The same applies to everyone else on the forum. The reaction to any member's posts are based purely on that content. Re: 2) That's not my experience of him. Re: 3) This is particularly ridiculous. During any transfer window, by your own admission, you post any alleged rumour from any source, sometimes up to 4 a page and you're at pains to say you post these rumours irrespective of whether you believe them yourself or not. If that's not punting gossip then I don't know what is.
  40. 2 points
    James, nobody can fault your passion but you do invite criticism with the way you overreact to every tabloid and internet / social media rumour, despite deep down, you know it is likely to be nonsense.
  41. 2 points
    We won the titles without them. We would have won the titles with them in the squad, but we would have been in a better position now with them in the team. Quite easy to understand to me. It's not about a witch hunt for me. As long as the person or persons responsible, at the minimum, learn from this is all that matters now. It happened, don't do it again. Get better football people on the board who can look at it from a better football perspective.
  42. 2 points
    2 titles? Salah was in Serie A team of season both times after leaving us, so he would surely have been an asset in 2016/7 campaign and certainly further ahead in developement ie the 2017/18 model. Hard to believe that rotating genuine future talents like KdB & especially Salah would have cost the 2014/15 title. Arguably keeping the squad fresh with more time for recovery would have enabled us to compete properly on all four fronts rather than being beaten 2-4 at home by Bradford and failing to eliminate 10 man PSG after ET at the Bridge
  43. 2 points
    Wasn't sure where to stick this but, a good friend of mine has got a new boyfriend who I met at the weekend. He works in the media making short sports films / tv programmes. He is a Palace fan with no particular reason to dislike or like anything Chelsea any more or less than any other neutral. Not too long ago he made a short program with JT, and I can't remember what it was in connection with. He said JT was one of the nicest (probably 2nd to Juan Mata) footballers he has ever met in his line of work. He said there were loads of people present at this production, cameramen, producers, script writers, editors etc and JT went round and introduced himself to every single one, asking their name and what their role was in the production. A complete contrast to the media villain he is painted as. I wasn't surprised, but nice to hear from a neutral.
  44. 2 points
    Clicked and couldn't work out why it wasn't the Happy Mondays.
  45. 2 points
    Wilkins is a very decent chap and a Chelsea legend who has had and may still have a serious drink problem (by his own admission). It's an odd one because he seems too calm , too together, too popular with players and too ...well...too nice to be a drunk. I think he is doing his best to handle his problem and who knows where it stems from. I suppose it was also behind his sacking which in fact signaled a previous collapse of our team (we've had a few of those haven't we). Sometimes alcohol makes you speak bollocks.Sometimes it makes you tell the truth. Sometimes it gives you the courage to say what you really think. I think Ray has fallen into all of these traps but I'd buy him a non alcoholic beer any day of the week.
  46. 2 points
  47. 2 points
    Were gonna have to find better initials or nickname for Danny Drinkwater. Every time I see DD it stops me in my tracks.😀
  48. 2 points
    The second part is as a direct correlation of the first, though. I agree we have too few attacking/creative players, but if we play all of them from the start (Fabregas, Pedro, Willian [does he count?], Hazard and Morata) who do we turn to if after 70 minutes it's still 0-0? Do we run them all into the ground for 90 minutes? Starting some, while having others on the bench, is the sensible solution whilst we continue to have fewer options than we would like whilst also playing more games.
  49. 2 points
    The thing is that wingbacks, as high as they position themselves are essentially defenders in attacking position. When you are looking for a goal you need good attacking talent. At any given point of time in the match, we did not have more than 3 solid attacking players. That is a crying shame in a game that we dominated from the go. Conte should have swapped a defender for Hudson Odoi.
  50. 2 points
    I'm not that bothered what formation we use. I certainly don't want to see us carry on using the 352 with the players that are currently being used so yes I have been more critical of that. What bothers me is the sheer lack or attacking players in our squad and the fact that people are quite happy to see us line up with 7/8 defensive players and think we are doing OK. City being better than us is irrelevant. I don't expect us to finish above them neither do I expect us to be 11 points behind them after 13 games. The fact that they are so good seems to be a reason for people accepting what we are doing at the moment. Because one team is so good and we were never going to win the league we can play ultra defensive football with 8 defensive players and find ourselves out of the title race after 13 games. We have let go a ridiculous amount of attacking players and bought in 2 along with 2 goalkeepers, 5 defenders and 3 defensive midfielders. All this whilst watching us play 352 with 7/8 defensive players and there is no problem with that? Why because City are better than us? It's absolute nonsense.