thevelourfog

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  1. Chelsea 2 Sheffield United 2

    To be blunt, it's you and a few others here who are confusing those two things. They are very different. One is lunacy, the other is pretty much the most sensible, least controversial (even if upsetting or undesirable from a supporter perspective) view to take on how Chelsea FC deals with managers given the last decade and a half. Fair play to you if you think Lampard will do really well here and be around for the long term. Admire your optimism and completely and utterly hope you're right. If I'm playing the odds though... Said this exact line before and think I'll be saying it a few more times in response to criticism of criticism of Frank... I'm afraid for not of him.
  2. Chelsea 2 Sheffield United 2

    I mean, so do I but that's largely because it's bet-hedging, mealy-mouthed journo-babble that doesn't make any real football point to disagree with; Lampard might be good, he might not. It's hardly an insight to say the bar is lower at Chelsea now. The proof of that was Lampard's appointment, not anything that's been said or done since. There might be an interesting point in there about the media, nepotism and an 'old boys club'. It probably is fair to say that Lampard has had an easier ride by the press in the first month of the season than would hypothetically have been the case if a less media-savvy, less charming, less diplomatic coach who hadn't so recently played at a high level alongside some pundits had got the same results. That says little about Lampard or Chelsea and more about how insular football journalism and punditry is. I am relieved, as odd as that seems, that Kovacic is injured. Makes a managerial decision that seemed bonkers from the outside make a lot more sense. Raises another question though... Just why are so many of our players so unfit?
  3. Chelsea 2 Sheffield United 2

    Spurs have played City and Arsenal away, probably their two hardest league fixtures of the year. The number of points doesn't really matter imo anyway; the just criticism at this point won't be about points on the board in August in a season we can't be expected to even come close to title-chasing, but rather about the performances and set up.
  4. Official: David Luiz Joins Arsenal

    Just had a shocker for the Eriksen goal in the NLD...
  5. Chelsea 2 Sheffield United 2

    I'm a huge defender of Azpi and think his attacking contribution so far this season is being hugely overlooked (he's been excellent going forward and crossing in every game this season, no his fault it hasn't always been capitalised on) but he does look very slow and unsteady getting back and in 1-2-1 settings. I think fitness issues and a complete lack of team defending or smarts (he is often the out ball when Zouma gets stuck and has to deal with mess not of his making imo) are making him look worse than he really is, but even considering those things this is the worst I've seen him for so long a string of games for us. Pulisic has been completely absent helping him out. That's a steep learning curve.
  6. Chelsea 2 Sheffield United 2

    Really poor performance, and would have been with or without the comedy 89th minute own goal. And that is what is concerning me about Chelsea 19/20; we cannot defend, cannot press and drop off as a unit, insist on playing out from the back without the personnel to do it, are a danger to ourselves in possession and have no midfield. No sure there were any standout poor individuals yesterday and it is more the case that the team is all over the shop. This is currently a lower mid-table team that needs it's stars back to be a 7th or 8th placed team. We are in trouble. Frank's game management has been, if we're honest and setting aside sentiment and hopes for the future, absolutely dreadful. Bright light is that Tammy can take his chances.
  7. Tammy abuse

    Odd, didn't get a notification saying you'd replied. Hadn't meant to ignore it. Two I'll make and then I'll move on; I think we've been polite and respectful to each other so no need to drag anything out further than that. The first is that the racist tweets (which I see Rashford has now also been the subject of) have racism 'at their core' no matter what the intention, motivation or identity of the person making them is. Even if it is to 'blacken our name'... Imagine your very being considered just an angle, just collateral damage to slander someone else. That's almost even more sickeningly racist to me, when your own existence is used to get at someone else. So it's racism, and needa to be called out for what it is either way. The second point is the whole censure thing. There is a tendency here and in plenty of football circles I feel for anyone who challenges from (I'll just own it) a more leftist/progressive/whatever we want to call it perspective to be framed as censoring or shutting down other people. That suggestion never seems to be made the other way round. Have your opinion and view, and I'll tell you (if I think you're worth talking to, and I do) if I disagree or think you have it wrong. And when you do the same to me, I'll take it for what it is rather than unfairly framing you as censoring me.
  8. Norwich City 2 Chelsea 3

    Think we've been watching different teams because I've been watching rivals play kids and win nothing or spend hundreds of millions to overtake us. All the while, might I add, while we win trophies. Today was nice.
  9. Norwich City 2 Chelsea 3

    I think Mount embarrassed Barkley today. Excellent delivery, engineered and took a chance brilliantly, pressed and harried even when left alone by his team mates. He wasn't perfect, but he made things count. Anything that went through Barkley broke down. Mount is ending Barkley's career here. He's doing it very quickly, too.
  10. Norwich City 2 Chelsea 3

    Hang on, VAR disallowed the goal?! Mental. Allowed a stamp? Dangerous. How long do we give VAR? A year, two?
  11. Norwich City 2 Chelsea 3

    VAR is a licence to do Barca mark 2 in every single game.
  12. Norwich City 2 Chelsea 3

    It's not a clear and obvious error, because part of the brief is to not give us penalties. Makes sense when you think about it.
  13. Norwich City 2 Chelsea 3

    lol Maybe next week, then.
  14. Norwich City 2 Chelsea 3

    We can't defend or in fact come within several feet of the ball in our own half to save our lives, but I suppose a mean positive is that Mount is finishing Barkley's Chelsea career. It's embarrassing just how much better he is already. Haven't seen a Norwich game this season, so no idea how they fade if at all. If they don't... Eek.
  15. Transfer Talk Topic

    Quoted the two things that make clear where we diverge. 6th and 7th place aren't positions we 'compete' for; they would represent failure, a failure I think we can assume based on all available evidence will result in coaching and/or playing staff being moved on. I can see us finishing that low, sure. I'm not sure I'd call that optimism. I think it is quite possible, even if not what I consider most likely, the club are writing this season off. But if they are, it'll be keeping powder dry so they are able to bring in players to take starting places. Our kids will have to have absolutely outstanding seasons, not simply okay ones, to be better than the players you'd expect us to be bringing in when we next can.