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  1. 3 hours ago, The_Ghost said:

    Too bad we’ve ****ed up his season by an incredibly stupid loan move. He should have been loaned to the Championship where he’d play every week. 

    In fairness, a loan to the Bundesliga is a good step.

    Loaning him to Leipzig was incredibly poor planning and a pretty serious misjudgement with respect to the quality of their squad.


  2. 9 minutes ago, Droy was my hero said:

    Low risk I agree.  But high cost.  His wages are reportedly Eur 15mn.  He has mostly started for RM when he has been fit.  There really is no point RM loaning him out unless there is a big cash element above the wages.  And besides surely he'd be cup-tied in the CL.

    I think the cup-tied rule has been changed. Dealt with under Article 45 here

    BUt Hazard has just been diagnosed with a broken ankle and is out for a while - getting Bale out of Madrid probably got much harder.


  3. Anyone got a reliable link for this game? Used to watch legit on DAZN but they’ve lost the rights here in Germany to $ky. Not willing to pay €30 a month for a ticket to watch one game a week. Tried the soccerstreams reddit but can’t seem to see the links...

    Any help via PM would be much appreciated!


  4. 13 hours ago, chara said:

    Hey Mark..sorry it'd a bit late and hopefully you are asleep and in a "good" place..all the best for a quick recovery.

    This on a day that I should have been in a bed in hospital recovering from a knee replacement yesterday...unfortunately due to a tooth problem(resolved) it was postponed until 20th Aug.

    Oh and today is my birthday so maybe for the best!....so ..with you in every way...

    Many squabbles on here but always when the chips are down we all reach out to fellow Chelsea guys and gals.

    Belated Happy Birthday, Chara!!


  5. 11 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

    Thanks everyone , much appreciated . At least I feel much better today , Luiz to Arsenal aside !!!!

    The hardest part for me was the three days of no food after the procedure and waiting for the biopsy results - uncomfortable from the excision, nervous and tetchy from lack of food does not help one's mood at all!!

    Wishing you a speedy recovery, Mark!


  6. Thank you Eden for your skill, goals, assists and commitment.

    I would have loved it, if he’d stayed but can’t begrudge him his move after everything he’s done for us. Just hope the dream lives up to the reality...

    We’ll miss his goals and creativity, and next season has just got exponentially harder, but if we can consolidate this year, bed in a couple of youngsters and use our cash stockpile wisely when we can, we should be good going forward.

    KTBFFH!


  7. 2 minutes ago, Lump Of Celery said:

     I was unable to locate on Google through the fog of lightly chilled bitters that should have been taken out to warm at half time.

    Pizzas all round

    Congratulations on another trophy my fellow Blues! We’ve been through the wringer this year but once again showed that when silverware’s at stake, Chelsea always come to play!

    Cheers to Blue Fizz!


  8. 45 minutes ago, Droy was my hero said:

    It's a bit like the "Kyle Scott has never been given a chance to play with top players at Chelsea" argument.

    It isn't about gender.  It is about the size of the market.  Women's football in UK is about the size of men's football in Malta.  Surely you wouldn't argue that a top domestic Maltese manager with silverware should be considered as a Chelsea manager?

    There is a woman manager in the German division 5.  She is 30 and a former German woman U23 international.  Promoted from Assistant manager.  Imke Wubbenhorst.
    That is a good starting point for her - good luck.
    Sense of humour too - she told the press she picks the team on penis size.

    Or conversely, the “Harry Kane, Mo Salah and Kevin de Bruyne aren’t good enough for the Premier League” argument.

    l admit, I also googled whether there were any female managers coaching men’s teams. After Shelley Kerr and Corrine Diacre, I wasn’t getting too many hits. It’s unusual yes, but Emma Hayes has done her time down in the gumboot patches. I just think she shouldn’t be dismissed that easily.

    She’s certainly done more than most ex-pros have done before getting an academy job.


  9. 10 minutes ago, McCreadie said:

    The ex-professionals with no experience are not managing Chelsea though.

    They are managing (at the time, mid-Championship) Derby and in "Scottish" football.

     

    And I’m not suggesting they should!

    I’m suggesting a coach with 6 years experience coaching at Chelsea, who has won silverware and is quite clearly a talented coach should be taken under consideration and not simply dismissed because their achievements have been won in the wrong gender.


  10. 54 minutes ago, The_Ghost said:

    Because whatever exposure she’s had at women’s football is nothing in comparison to what awaits at the top of the premier league. I’m shocked it’s not an obvious fact really. 

    Am I ready to coach Chelsea if I get through and acquire the UEFA badges? No, of course not. Having the paperwork in place and being remotely qualified is two separate things. Whatever exposure AVB, Gerrard and Lampard had in their previous positions are worth a hundred times more than having the UEFA qualification. 

    I don't understand this viewpoint to be honest.

    Lampard et al are 100x more valuable with ZERO managerial experience than Emma Hayes with a multi-national, silverware-winning coaching history just because they've been involved in men's football? That's obviously why Alan Shearer and Thierry Henry (to name but two) have been so successful translating all the great things they were 'exposed' to in their careers...

    Gerrard was the coach of the Liverpool U18s for 1 year before getting the Rangers gig. Lampard wasn't even that.

    You aren't ready to coach Chelsea in the same way that all the ex-professionals who jump straight into a managerial position aren't - no quantifiable experience. Emma Hayes has 6 years experience coaching and managing in the Chelsea Environment; successfully too. Where it’s been earned should be irrelevant.


  11. 1 hour ago, Droy was my hero said:

    Dismissive yes, accurate yes too.  It has all been Ladies football.  The boys vs girls comparison is everything.  

    Without having a chance to manage in the men's game I disagree that it's everything - my point was that she'd grafted to get where she is and had proven to be an adaptable, successful Coach.

    1 hour ago, Droy was my hero said:

    Had she been just as successful in amateur football, would you be proposing her now?  

    She is only a big fish because it is a very very very small pool.

    Probably not, but I'm not proposing Johann Schmidt, from down the road, or Joe Cole to be the next manager either. Similarly, I've not actually proposed Emma Hayes - merely stated that if interviewed / hired she'd be an intriguing prospect.

    1 hour ago, Droy was my hero said:

    It isn't a man's job, it isn't a job where the extra speed or strength or arrogance of a man helps.
    But it is a job in which she competes with 50% of the population, instead of the 1% that have shown any interest in female football.

    And yet we had the same arguments about suitability thrown around when (Massey) was introduced in 2010.

    1 hour ago, Mark Kelly said:

    I saw Emma Hayes being interviewed on TV once and she did come across as very knowledgeable on the game , I'd be worried that our precious lot would struggle with being told what to do by a woman though seeing as they appear to dislike being told what to do by anyone , the amount of coaches they've seen off.

    From what I've seen and heard of her, I've found her very competent in footballing matters and quite insightful. Certainly a step up on Mark Lawrenson et al. Whether she would be accepted by a professional men's team is the key question. The number of women involved in male professional sport is still very small.

    51 minutes ago, McCreadie said:

    Of course it doesnt necessarily make them any good at it, but they have at least each spent 20 years in the men's game day in day out, feeding off the best coaches in World football

    (well not Gerrard, obviously).

    So had Thierry Henry!


  12. 29 minutes ago, Droy was my hero said:

    No she really hasn't.  She has succeeded in a sport with about 1% of the competitors of male football played at a level equivalent to U15 level.

    I think that's unfairly dismissive of you - she's done her time in lower league Football, college Football, as an assistant Manager and as a Coach. She's been sacked and won titles - she's tried, failed and succeeded in her chosen sport while competing against her peers. The boys vs. girls comparison is moot.

    29 minutes ago, Droy was my hero said:

    Well it isn't to me - though I can't get worked up about it.  Probably his biggest qualification or the job is his sister who manages in a bigger Sport.

    I agree about Phil Neville - I don't believe he should have got the job, but in fairness, he's made a decent fist of it.

    29 minutes ago, Droy was my hero said:

    BTW Sian Massey-Ellis is brilliant - sets the standard in her profession - but she is competing with men and in the male sport, not in some parallel universe.

    Yes, she is a good lino. There was also the same outcry about her when she first started in the Premier League but having been given a chance, and having suffered the abuse and naysaying, she's shown that she's just as good at a 'man's job' as her colleagues.

    Maybe one day we'll say the same about Hayes.


  13. 42 minutes ago, The_Ghost said:

     

    With the risk of infuriating some of our female members...but that was the most ridiculous idea I have ever heard. 

    We are a long way off from having a female manager at the very top of mens football. Most likely several decades away if ever. Like Droy says womens football is comparable to U-16 boys and below. I remember us playing the first female team that played in the highest division and we spanked them 8-0 when we were 14. 

    It's barely the same sport. 

    You're right - women play on different sized pitches, with a different number of players, under different rules and constantly against players of the opposite gender - it's not the same sport at all! Hayes has gone through the same education as her male counterparts, has had to do the same graft to get where she is and has more claim to be a football manager than Vilas Boas did when he went from tactical scout at Inter to the hot seat at Porto.

    Why is it acceptable for Phil Neville to take over the women's national team, Lampard to take over a top 6 Championship side or Gerrard to take over the second biggest club in Scotland with ZERO managerial experience, but it's not OK for Hayes, who has won multiple league titles and Cups (against men no less) and holds a UEFA Pro Licence to take over a senior side?

    The only reason people find it strange is because of gender typecasting, not because she's incapable.


  14. 2 hours ago, Droy was my hero said:

    Oh please.  Women's football is barely a competitive sport.  It doesn't compare with Mens sport, it doesn't compare with boys U16 sport.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/australian-womens-national-team-lose-70-to-team-of-15yearold-boys-a3257266.html

     

    None of which is relevant to her ability to coach/manage the men's team.

    Hayes wouldn't be coaching women against 15 year olds with all her foreign-based players missing - she'd be coaching men against men, on a level playing field.

    She's been successful against her competitors in league and cup football, plays an attractive style, builds teams well and is tactically flexible. She's also been in the job for over 6 years which has got to make her one of the longest serving management staff at the club. These are things we look for as translatable skills in foreign managers, who have never coached senior football in England. Why not her?