TeRiYaKi

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  1. New Kits

    The Adidas logo in the middle and the Chelsea badge to one side doesn't look balanced...
  2. Ashley Cole

    I'd prefer Lahm over Ashley given the circumstances... First it reignites the whole tapping up scandal, then Cole himself may not be as good for us if he becomes unsettled by being labelled a traitor, not to mention the pressure he will be under to perform. The price won't be cheap either, and it'll give Wenger a bigger budget to build with. What he does have going for him is that he's used to the EPL and he's got many years left in him.
  3. Ashley Cole

    quote:Originally posted by James PrescottBy the way, what's the 'good authority'? No names, but who is he? An agent, a person who works at Chelsea or Arsenal, a player - who? id="quote"> id="quote">Uncle's friend's son's taxi driver no less...
  4. Salomon Kalou

    Guess that leaves the Shevchenko and Obi deals to be finalised, then the signing of a left-back and someone to fill the Huth/Gallas void.
  5. Didier Drogba

    I'll keep this post short so as you don't have much to break down and interpret to your liking across 50 lines, but quite simply the player leading our attack has to have a better finishing ability. Drogba is not a good finisher, and you're trying to justify this shortcoming by listing all his other positive attributes (heading, strength etc) while constantly pointing at the stats, which is fair. However I personally don't think this justifies him being a very average finisher, amongst other shown technical weakesses, and I'm suggesting that some of the stats are misleading and flatter him somewhat. This is where we will disagree so lets leave it at that. We could go further into discussing about what type of centre-forward is better, compare centre-forwards such as Crespo (who is complicated by other reasons mind you), and go about throwing the usual alternatives to Drogba around, but it all seems rather pointless as we've all been through these topics a countless amount of times.
  6. Didier Drogba

    Well I've come up with 2 examples of the 11 assists off the top of my head, but I'm not going to backtrack through the season for every example of what I mean. The main point that I'm trying to convey is that his assist tally does not accurately reflect his actual skill as a provider, hence it misleads. His 11 assists aren't mostly from brilliant playmaking or decisive passing. He's been pumped a large volume of possession from all directions and through that he finds himself with many assists. Yes there are a couple of examples of when he comes up brilliant and does it alone, but I feel that his overall assists tally flatters him. Ronaldinho last season had a similar assist count, but they're in no way comparable providers. A big striker with a good head can really cause problems for the opposition, don't think anyone is doubting that, but in our case I'd like our big striker to be able to shoot and control the ball at a better level. Need to find a striker with a better balance of attributes.
  7. Didier Drogba

    quote:Originally posted by Nilesh Desaiquote:Originally posted by TeRiYaKiWhat about the Wigan game where Crespo came up brilliant with a 20 yard curling shot, did you know Drogba got an assist from this game from being the guy who touched it last before Crespo? Not misleading? What about the assist to Gallas? He jumps up, ball goes somewhere and Gallas poaches it. Can you see how that's not the same as someone putting in a brilliant ball for an assist? id="quote"> id="quote">You said *most*. And this is no different from other teams' fans saying that Lampard is lucky, not World Class, because all his goals are via a deflection. Perhaps you can provide your justification for *most*, by listing his 11 assists and how they occurred, afterall you did emphatically make that assertion twice. And I did not realise that flick-ons were random, no doubt strikers don't practice them, whether resulting from a goal kick, or corner, or other deadball situation. Pity that Crespo, RVN and Shearer are so poor at 'Randomly' finding teammates. quote:Have you ever stopped to think how many assists other players may have if Drogba put away more easy chances? id="quote"> id="quote">No. Perhaps you could enlighten us? Maybe you can come up with missed 'easy' chances for all the above strikers this season. As Toby pointed out in the RVN thread, to quote: "Did anyone check out the stats section in last weeks NOTW? (Dirty I know) - Drogba was at the top of the 'assists' list and also second or third in the 'created chances' list too, his 'points' total was more than Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard, Henry and a certain equestrian featured striker from Holland." It seems a lot of Chelsea players missed 'chances' created by Drogba, otherwise his assists total would have been even higher. Or maybe these are just 'random' events, and Drogba leading this year, Lampard last, with Henry the year before, don't indicate any ability but are just coincidental occurrances. quote:What sets those strikers apart from Drogba is their finishing ability, you should not believe how good a player is from just statistics alone as they can be misleading. I give credit where credit is due but honestly, I don't feel that being the last guy to touch the ball before the goalscorer means he's such a brilliant provider. id="quote"> id="quote"> Assists don't work that way, inadvertent deflections are not credited as assists. Unlike goals, where, usually, whoever gets the last deflection from the scoring team is credited with a goal, and is even credited if an opponent deflects it, wrong footing the goalie etc. So maybe we should ignore goals scored as a stat as well. quote:If you still feel so strongly about this then we're just going to have to agree to disagree, but I will ask you this, if Drogba were really as good as his statistics lead you to believe then why are we trying so hard to sign another world-class striker?id="quote"> id="quote">Perhaps you can explain why we are looking to sign Ballack. Our effort obviously indicates that Maka, Lampard and Essien are not good enough. And why have three world class centre halfs when only two can play? Must be because JT or Billy were not good enough, prompting JM to purchase Carvalho. Why have Robben, Duff, Cole and SWP for only two spots on the wings? Obviously Robben, Duff and Cole were crap last season, requiring JM to spend 21M on SWP. id="quote"> id="quote">I think whatever I continue writing to you you're just going to stubbornly break it down in an effort to prove you're right. So instead of us arguing across many pages how about I just sum it here, you think Drogba is doing a very good job and I think we can get someone better. You use statistics, I use what I see. This difference of opinion is not going to change no matter how much debate goes on. When Shevchenko joins to replace your statistically wonderful Drogba I will be completely satisfied, but quite honestly I just don't have the time to indulge in arguing with you at length.
  8. Didier Drogba

    quote:Originally posted by Nilesh Desaiquote:Originally posted by TeRiYaKiAnyways, Drogba's had some brilliant games this season, noone is taking that away from him, but he's also had his fair share of meagre performances too. As I've said in my last post, his assists tally is misleading as most of it comes from spills from the many, many random headers that he makes due to our long-ball target man approach. It's not like he's splitting opposition defences with brilliant through balls. id="quote"> id="quote">You have just demonstrated your one-eyed unreasoning hatred of Drogba, as well as contradicted yourself. How can you claim "Drogba's had some brilliant games this season, noone is taking that away from him" and in the next sentence take away that credit with "his assists tally is misleading as most of it comes from spills from the many, many random headers"? Perhaps, to show that your dismissal of Drogba has some rational basis, you might list the games in which his assists came from "many, many random headers", and show that *most* originated that way, as you claim. Would they include all those 'headed' assists at Anfield when we won 4-1; or perhaps the 'headed' cross from the right wing for Crespo's goal against West Ham; or the 'headed' tackle and pass to Lampard against Everton. And those random headed assists wouldn't happen to involve some set-piece routine where, say, William Gallas ends up scoring? There is obviously no possibility that Jose and the boys work on such things, I mean, this is Drogba, those assists have to be random events, don't they? Lets see how some of the top strikers not named Henry compare to 'Random' Drogba in the assist stakes, during their time (or last 5 years) in the EPL (from Yahoo). 1) Crespo: 03/04 & 05/06 :-Total 1 2) RVN: 01/02 to 05/06 :-Total 13 3) Rooney: 02/03 to 05/06: -Total 18 4) Shearer: 01/02 to 05/06 :-Total 16 5) Drogba: 4/05 to 05/06 :-Total 16 Oh well, it's better to be lucky than good. Especially 'Random' Drogba, who seems to have increased both his goals and assists tally from last season. id="quote"> id="quote">Good effort in trying to make me look like I'm contradicting myself. Perhaps I should further explain myself. Drogba has had some brilliant games this season (eg. Arsenal matches, Liverpool away etc). No arguments between us there. Now explain to me how this contradicts with my comment about how Drogba's assist tally can be misleading. Fair enough, he got some nice assists in the Liverpool away game playing like some sort of winger, but look past that. What about the Wigan game where Crespo came up brilliant with a 20 yard curling shot, did you know Drogba got an assist from this game from being the guy who touched it last before Crespo? Not misleading? What about the assist to Gallas? He jumps up, ball goes somewhere and Gallas poaches it. Can you see how that's not the same as someone putting in a brilliant ball for an assist? Have you ever stopped to think how many assists other players may have if Drogba put away more easy chances? What sets those strikers apart from Drogba is their finishing ability, you should not believe how good a player is from just statistics alone as they can be misleading. I give credit where credit is due but honestly, I don't feel that being the last guy to touch the ball before the goalscorer means he's such a brilliant provider. If Drogba were a lot more clinical then I would not criticise him, but he's not and here we are. If you still feel so strongly about this then we're just going to have to agree to disagree, but I will ask you this, if Drogba were really as good as his statistics lead you to believe then why are we trying so hard to sign another world-class striker?
  9. Didier Drogba

    Doubt we would get 25 million pound for Drogba. If a transfer were to happen I guarantee he would go for less than this.
  10. Didier Drogba

    quote:Originally posted by James PrescottAnother Drogba thread, another chance for the Drogba haters who've never wanted him to come out and say how much they hate him. Don't even bother posting, I'll make your points for you. Let me guess - he's a disgrace to the game, he's a diver, no first touch, he's brought shame to our club, he does nothing for the team, sets a bad example, a waste of money. Is this what you all want to say? However, anyone who's watched Chelsea this season can see that Drogba was a key player in all of our best performances and our biggest wins. More assists and double-figures in goals despite missing a month with the ANC and another few weeks with injuries, tracking back and defending, winning unwinnable balls and setting up goals, holding the ball up brillianly and scaring the life out of some good teams. Obviously we should take the money and run!!! id="quote"> id="quote">I agree with the last line of your post =) Why label people as Drogba-haters? Should I call you an over-protective Drogba fanboy? How about a little more respect... Anyways, Drogba's had some brilliant games this season, noone is taking that away from him, but he's also had his fair share of meagre performances too. As I've said in my last post, his assists tally is misleading as most of it comes from spills from the many, many random headers that he makes due to our long-ball target man approach. It's not like he's splitting opposition defences with brilliant through balls. Apart from that, "anyone who's watched Chelsea this season" can also see that Drogba isn't the most gifted of finishers, and doesn't have the best first touch on him. I don't see why we're not allowed to criticise this seeing as it's true, as protective as you may be. Sure he tracks back and defends, but I don't see how this excuses him from missing the many easy chances that fall his way... and they do come, and we all get frustrated, and he holds his face in his hands in annoyance knowing that he should have done better. Look, quite simply, if Drogba is as amazing as you make him out to be then why are we looking so hard for a better striker? On his day Drogba can be outstanding, but overall he's largely inconsistent and definitely not clinical enough in front of goal. Someone will be brought in because of this.
  11. Didier Drogba

    So the main argument for Drogba is that he's loyal, he loves the fans and he back-tracks, while being one of the best headers of the ball. What about his weaknesses? How about being able to finish easy chances? How about having more technical ability than a central defender? At the end of the day Drogba is too wasteful, and for all the statistics going his way... well, when the whole team plays long ball to Drogba's head and his header randomly goes somewhere and spills to someone... you can technically call that an assist but it's not exactly intentional. Huth and Terry could probably provide a similar result if that was the gameplan. First and foremost, strikers need to be able to shoot, we can't sacrifice so much basic striking ability for someone with a powerful heading ability. Fair enough, he brings something different to the table but surely this shouldn't make him the primary striker. As much as I truely hate RvN he is surely much more complete that Drogba.
  12. Didier Drogba

    Here's a hypothetical situation... What if we sign Shevchenko, Crespo goes the other way, and we have the option to sign RvN for a more affordable fee due to the current spat. Would you keep Drogba over Mr Ed?
  13. Didier Drogba

    I dream of this too!
  14. Salomon Kalou

    quote:Originally posted by David80quote:Originally posted by basoleThe times I have watched Feyenoord play (and they are about 10), he hasnt convinced me that he is good. Maybe Jose knows better, but after Kezman,Jarosik,and Del Horno, I wont hold my breath. id="quote"> id="quote"> Haha. I found out the password afterall. It wasn't DavidCFC, it was David80. id="quote"> id="quote">You do know that multiple accounts are not allowed ;)
  15. Salomon Kalou

    quote:Originally posted by Steveoquote:Originally posted by akallasquote:Originally posted by TeRiYaKiThe question is will he replace SWP or Carlton Cole? id="quote"> id="quote">Neither. It's Hernan Crespo. id="quote"> id="quote"> Who said we only having 1 upfront next season we could have 2 with the likes of Drogba Crespo Eidur Kalou id="quote"> id="quote">Well who said we're not going to have 1 up front next season? Besides, I think at least one out of Crespo and Gudjohnsen will leave. 442 will probably be the secondary tactic anyway. If we do play it I'd prefer a winger or someone more skilful as the 2nd striker... In which case Kalou would probably still need to replace someone.