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  1. Michael Essien

    When people argue in Essien's favour, I wonder what they are up to. We are lacking immensely in attack and instead want to overload the middle and not even with a world class player or playmaker, but a mediocre Essien. Can Frank Arnesen start his job as Director of Football any earlier? Someone sensible has to be in charge of all our dealings and buys...
  2. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by cyrusWell obviously you're prejudiced in disputing Essien's age. The fact that some Africans lied with respect to their age does not mean Essien also lied. There are exceptions to every rule. I have provided you a background profile of Essien's career which clearly validates his age. You on the other hand base your opinion on a warped logic that some African players lied in the past. You can surely do better than that!!! Let me tell you that not all African players go straight to a big team as you seek to imply out here. It takes a while for many to adapt to the European game and lifestyle before their full talents are seen. Samuel Kuffour was at Torino in Itay for a number of years before making it big at Bayern and same goes for Stephen Appiah at Genoa and Brescia. Even Obi went to Norway before the ensuring battle between ManU and Chelsea. Essien has a record of performance right from the Under 17 level through Under 20 level to Bastia and finally at Lyon. His play and influence have earned him medals and Championships at every stage of his career. Obviously Mourinho rates him highly which is why he is ready to bid such a high amount. id="quote"> id="quote">Did you actually read my mail properly? Did I say that ALL African players transfer straight to big clubs? Did you see the links for the stats regarding Essien and Tiago? Could you please explain how better Essien is than Tiago?
  3. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by oblueHernanCrespo I think you should maybe lay down the age argument as it would be pointless to argue with someone who claims to know the guy. This debate is never going to end because those who are anti-Essien are basing their argument on the idea that we need a playmaker rather than whether Essien is good enough or not. Out of interest, would you say there are many No10 type playmakers who have been a success in the Premiership before, and can a typical No10 realistically play in a team with two wingers? Would this not leave us too short at the back? id="quote"> id="quote">Regarding the age saga, I will let that rest for now because I do not want any pro-Essien supporter to hide under that canopy and ignore the technical side of things. The premiership is still a football league where football is played even though players are given less time on the ball. But we saw how Bayern Munich hurried Arsenal off the park in Highbury to knock them out of the CL. A playmaker will definitely work here as far as his role is well defined. With 4 defenders, a defensive midfielder and Lampard ocassionally dropping back, we should not have any problem. People so so easily forget one thing and that is, Barcelona outplayed and dominated us in the Nou Camp that we couldn't even register a single shot on target. It wasn't because of excellent defending. They just attack you wave after wave after wave and it is suffocating for any defence. AC Milan play with a playmaker and two strikers all the time with Gattuso and Seedorf roving behind Kaka and Pirlo and it works. Football being dynamic as it is needs new inventions and it is that creativity that has led Arsenal to play some of the best football ever seen in the premiership in as much as I hate to say this. ManYoo did not chase Ronaldinho to come and be defending for them but him to play as a playmaker and Ferguson was not wrong. So you see that it can work if only we give it a try...
  4. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by OvePerhaps eventually, in ten years time, if Essien does join us now, we'll see hernancrespo starting several threads raving about him. "The Grandpa of football" and "Essien, his son and grandson occupying all of midfield!!!!!". id="quote"> id="quote">Maybe...
  5. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by James PrescottI have nothing against you hernancrespo, but from reading this whole thread you are coming across as someone who as Jose put it "thinks they know everything about football, but they don't". You are also making assumptions and providing no solid evidence at all to back up your arguments and seem to be jumping to conclusions. Again this is not personal against you at all but just an observation. Just be careful what you say and how you say it (don't I know that from my 'done deal' experience) because you really could offend someone and no-one wants that. We shouldn't fall out and get personal just talking about opinions we have about our football club or certain players. Let's just have some intelligent and friendly discussion and agree to disagree, okay? If you think Essien is 30 and rubbish and a one-season wonder then we must respect that. At the same time if we think he's 22 and good you must respect that. It's a two way street and it applies to everyone. id="quote"> id="quote">James, there is no point for this mail of yours! Make your point and leave it there and stop judging hernancrespo. Gosh! You are getting personal and petty on this matter that others have also debated on with honour and integrity and I have NEVER disrespected anyone on this forum unless in your imagination. What is the talk of knowing everything in football? Did I say so? Please address the issues and leave my person out of this. My points are: 1. Essien is NOT 22 years. 2. We don't need Essien. 3. Tiago deserves his chance. 4. If Chelsea need a midfielder, then a playmaker makes MORE sense. The simple fact here is that because I schooled or claimed to have schooled with someone is no ALIBI that I know his age. Simple... The MAIN issue here is Essien coming to Chelsea and the age matter should not overlook the reasonable reason laid out.
  6. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by basoleHope Lyon's statement reads like this: Due to our keen interest in what's taking place at chelsea, we hereby reject their bid for Essien in order to give a chance to Cole, Tiago & Grant so that they can mature into the good footballers we think they can be. The purchase of last year's French Footballer of the year for 24M denied Forsell his chance at chelsea, and we will do everything we can to prevent this from happening at Chelsea again. Our decision was also made easy by the presence of Geremi,Jarosik and Smertin on Chelsea's books, note forgeting the pending arrival of SWP. We hope Jose realises that we did this for him (reduce on his selection problems)and we hereby assure him andthe entire Chelsea fraternity that the relations between the two clubs will always be horrible. Signed Aulus id="quote"> id="quote">Ratified basole and merci beaucoup. Bonjour Monsieur!
  7. Michael Essien

    I will riot if we sign Essien. What for? £20m? Someone's going mad! I know Helen said same yesterday but this is not reliable. I better gt on the phone to Roman and Jose now!
  8. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by cyrusThere's no point arguing with you about Essien's real age since you can't provide evidence to the contrary. This has nothing to do with the number of posts one has but rather the facts of the issue. You know nothing about Essien's background yet make baseless claims doubting his real age. Unlike you I have provided facts about Essien's background which clearly shows he is indeed 22. You can attack and vilify him all you want but you can't revise the truth. About Essien's Man U trial, as a self proclaimed expert on African soccer, you should know the difficulties involved with work permit issues. All it takes is a little research and you'll know how high Fergie regarded Essien. Up till today, he still regrets not keeping Essien when he was on trial at Old Trafford. Besides Essien got a European contract with Bastia when the Man U deal failed to materialise. Established stars like Stephen Appiah(Juventus) and Sammuel Kuffour(formerly Bayern Munich - Now Roma) all started at lesser known clubs before eventually achieving success with bigger clubs. Essien has proven a success at every step of his career and no amount of vilification by people like you will soil his reputation. And remember you heard this from me first; Essien has already agreed personal terms with Chelsea. The only sticking point is his transfer figure with Lyon and Houllier is resigned to losing him. Have a good day and I hope we have more discussions about Essien's performance with Chelsea next season!!! id="quote"> id="quote">Still, you haven't proved that Essien is 22 years and even if you present his online birth certificate, it will not convince me regarding his age. It is no news that African players lie a lot regarding their age because like I said before, their football life span defies the simple logic of sense, progression and growth. There are so many examples that I shall not go into now but they are many examples of African players who moved directly from Africa to top European clubs and where was the work permit excuse? Nigerian players like Stephen Keshi moved from exile in Ivory Coast to Anderletch of Belgium, Kanu Nwankwo and Finidi George moved straight to Ajax Amsterdam and of late Obafemi Martins moved to Inter Milan. This is just to mention a few... Now, I still maintain that Chelsea does not need Essien and a quick statistical research has shown more light on why we don't need him. Some people say that he is better than Tiago but facts tell the truth. Should he replace Tiago in our squad? I say an emphatic NO because the only slight advantage was in the Champions League when Tiago had an unsettled run compared to Essien. For Essien's stats for last season and others please read http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/100...0000011673.html and for Tiago please read http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/20592.html and compare both. Consider the fact that Tiago crossed borders while Essien has always played in the French League. Do those facts portray Essien as better than Tiago despite playing more? Is Essien the playmaker we need? What is Essien going to bring to Chelsea that we don't already have? Do the maths...
  9. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by cyrusPoint of correction to those doubting Essien's age. I think I speak with some authority because I'm Ghanaian and played secondary schol football with Michael Essien. Yes Indeed, Essien is 22 and will turn 23 this year. Essien was the star of his sec. school in 98 and was then drafted in Ghana's under 17 team in 99. He was one of the stars who led the Starlets to Bronze in New Zealand 99 when Ghana beat USA made up of Beasley and Donovan. Essien also starred for the Ghana under 20 team which placed second in Argentina 2001. His teammates on that team included Obadai(Ajax) and Muntari(Udinese). As usual Essien was of the stars and chipped in a couple of goals in the tournament. Sir Alex was very impressed with Essien and invited him to Old Trafford but could not finalise the move because of work permit issue. Yes, it's true some African players use false ages but Essien is an exception. This comes from someone who knows him personally and competed against him. Nii Odartey Lamptey is a glarring example of the adverse effects of age cheating. Remember he was tipped by Pele as a rising star when he led Ghana to win Italia 91(under 17) yet could not live up to his promise. Essien and Appiah are the lynchpins of the Ghana Black Stars who are on the cusp of qualifying for their first world cup. That is due in large part to the influence of those two players on the team. In Ghana, Appiah is a national hero for his influence and leadership but Essien is the driving force in the midfield. Both players are terrific but Essien is an ideal box to box midfielder who can easily dominate both offensively and defensively. Essien is no one season wonder as some would have us believe. He was a real solid record of achievement and performance which speaks highly of his abilities. Some of you may feel he is not suited to a specific role in Chelsea but don't disparage his overall football abilities. Essien is a baller who will only get better and hopefully showcase his abilities in Germany 06. id="quote"> id="quote">You can be anybody and anybody can easily lay claim. Because you say that you schooled with Essien, then does that gives you authority to say you know his age? Haha! I cannot be easily deceived mate. I for one do not believe your statement under any circumstances and I REPEAT that Essien is not 22 years! The license you are parading with doesn't look real and how come your first post is to dispute or rather say see through Essien's age? Wind-up merchant? Essien is a one-season wonder, nothing special and nothing spectacular and in fact not what we need. You say he had no work permit to join ManYoo but if he was exceptional and quality, it shows from an early age and big teams would be scrambling. Kaka left Brazil at 21 years because AC Milan were so desperate for his services and he had no work permit and same as Crespo. Ronaldo left at 18 years. The list is endless... What I am trying to say is that if you are good and have potential and play at the U-17 and U-20 level, you are chased and bought early or kept under tutelage for a future swoop. Chelse are currently in a fight with ManYoo over John Mikel Obi after being spotted in the U-17 torunament some years ago and has currently led Nigeria to the semi-finals in the U-20 World Youth tournament in Holland. Essien has had a good season with Lyon but that does not mean that Chelsea should buy him. Sir Alex Ferguson seems to have learnt from the Djemba-Djemba experience and has no interest in Essien despite Essien having interest in ManYoo. I wish him the very best in Lyon next season!
  10. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by Glen Morpheus Pawseyquote:Originally posted by mobyI have had the opportunity of watching Essien in action against Uganda in a world cup qualifier and I can assure you that the lad is absolute rubbish. I would be gutted if we signed him. Please Jose don't sign that overated, over priced piece of rubbish. Anyway does any of you really want him at the Bridge? id="quote"> id="quote"> Well said and no. All apologies for entering this long argument at a very late stage. id="quote"> id="quote">Welcome Glen, I wonder whether Essien is magician to some people. Let him remain in France...
  11. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by Jimquote:Originally posted by hernancrespoquote:Originally posted by Jonnoquote:Originally posted by hernancrespoWhy play Huth as a striker against Liverpool in Anfield? Why not go for a playmaker? id="quote"> id="quote"> He put on Huth to have a more physical presence up top in the closing stages, and then he would have slotted straight into defence if we had found that elusive goal. Mourinho admitted the same tactic was employed, I think, against Barcelona, but just as the change was being made Terry scored, and Huth wasn't needed to play upfront. There was reason to the madness! id="quote"> id="quote"> But when Ranieri did same in Monaco, he was slated by the press and termed a half-wit! The point I am trying to make here is that Forssell was on the bench, so why didn't he play? In fact, if Filipe Oliviera was employed for that possible I would mind but playing Huth upfront was desperation at its worst and showed tactical ineptitude by the special one... id="quote"> id="quote"> Can't agree with that. Ranieri tried his experiment in the 1st leg and got it badly wrong, with the team unsure how they were meant to play and Mourinho's was in the 2nd leg and a last throw of the dice to save the tie against a team that was camped in its own area. The aerial route was taken as a result, hence Huth being on and Terry going up front as well and it nearly worked with the Terry knockdown for Gudjohnsen at the death. If that's tactical ineptitude, then we should stop Terry going up for corners's and free kicks. At the time it was a reasonable and logical decision based on the way the game was going. id="quote"> id="quote">Either way, both men made similar decisions for the same player and got no results. The complex point here is them using Huth on both ocassions and what they expected of Huth is best known to them but to any football pundit, it was catastrophic. It yielded no result and on both ocassions, we lost. There is no right justification for those decisions and if Terry goes up for corners, it is becuase he scores with his head more often and so far Huth has only scored from a corner with his head when Terry dubiously blocked the Birmingham defender in the FA Cup at Stamford Bridge. We tried the aerial route against Bayern Munich and it worked but against a towering Sami Hyypia and a dogmatic Carragher, it failed woefully. The reason we lost was because we lacked the wing presence and never took our chances when they came. Terry upfront and Huth upfront is a mis-match and mis-comparison. If we tried Forssell or Oliviera, then I can understand. What you are proposing is route-one football which can be very counter productive. If we had a top draw playmaker, we would have won that match hands-down! I mean someone who could run at Hyypia and expose his lack of pace, someone whose trickery would leave Carragher sprawling and someone whose football wizardry would make Djimi Traore look like a pillar of salt. To end this surmise, we lost the plot even more when Huth came on just like we did in Monaco. It will be on record that in 2 semi-finals, both Ranieri and Mourinho failed. Maybe, it will change next season...
  12. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by Portugahernancrespo - maybe we can orgaines a seminar in Kampala in the beautiful green and pleasant Uganda id="quote"> id="quote">And hopefully sign some players there too... Basole might end up being our Director of Football there, you know?
  13. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by PhilH930You're very dismissive and derogatory in your responses though, lighten up, its only speculation and opinion! id="quote"> id="quote">No no no... I think you reading meanings too much in my posts and maybe get too sensitive with them. I love debates and revel in them but I respect everyone's opinion that's why I even respond to them. Derogatory? That's not me mate! I might get a bit worked up at times due to my passion and love for Chelsea and football in general but if you follow my posts, you will see that I easily accept my mistakes and give kudos when due. Don't take it personal but simply enjoy it. You will never find me abusing someone for the sake of arguments and neither will you find me swearing at anyone. It's not just my style...
  14. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by PortugaHernan Crespo ?????? :Originally posted by Portuga Do playmakers actually exist in modern football ? I think we sort of have hole players like Ronaldinho , Aimar, Totti - previously Pele, Cruyif, Zico, Zola, Baggio and Maradona. We have defensive midfielders who break up attacks and then start them with short passing - Makelele, Costinha, Basinas and Emmerson - previously Redondo , Tardelli Then we have complete midfileders who run box to box , score , defend etc Lampard, Viera could fit here or in the defensive category and Ballack prevously Bryan Robson , Neeskens, Lothar Matthaus Apart from Zizou I don't see and world class playmakers like Gascoigne , Netzer ,Gerson, Platini, Antognoni ,Falcao...... a few have tried Veron,Rozisky ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Maybe, you are still watching football of yesteryears... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ hernancrespo - maybe all the mutual back slapping with Basole has led you to catch his Kampala fever ! I think my post is fairly clear - I asked hence the question mark do we haveplaymakers in the modern game - You and Basole seem to define any flair player that operates somewher between the attack and midfield as a play maker . I do agree BTW that we need some more flair and would love to see a Ronaldinho or Kaka in our team... formation and personnel would have to change to accomodate them but JM has shown the propensity to accomodate players if they are good enough ....... So where are the play makers today who pick the ball up from the goalie (sometimes) and start attacks with short or long passes , one twos etc , determine the rythym of the team etc. I repeat apart from Zizou I don't see and world class playmakers like Gascoigne , Netzer ,Gerson, Platini, Antognoni ,Falcao even Johnny Giles and Alan Hudson..... a few have tried Veron,Rozisky - the former one has been crucified on this forum when he played for us.......... id="quote"> id="quote">Sorry Portuga! I tend to see less at night... I thought you were questioning the need of a playmaker in CFC. I owe you 2 pints when we meet. I hope I visit Kampala though and see basole one day! KTBFFH!!!
  15. Frank Arnesen

    I hope this is true and this bad winds stops blowing. I know Arnesen will still direct affairs before he resumes but the whole saga has been needless and annoying. No more senseless tap-ups PLEASE!!!
  16. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by Jonnoquote:Originally posted by hernancrespoWhy play Huth as a striker against Liverpool in Anfield? Why not go for a playmaker? id="quote"> id="quote"> He put on Huth to have a more physical presence up top in the closing stages, and then he would have slotted straight into defence if we had found that elusive goal. Mourinho admitted the same tactic was employed, I think, against Barcelona, but just as the change was being made Terry scored, and Huth wasn't needed to play upfront. There was reason to the madness! id="quote"> id="quote">But when Ranieri did same in Monaco, he was slated by the press and termed a half-wit! The point I am trying to make here is that Forssell was on the bench, so why didn't he play? In fact, if Filipe Oliviera was employed for that possible I would mind but playing Huth upfront was desperation at its worst and showed tactical ineptitude by the special one...
  17. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by IcemanMan Utd is to offer Saha for Essien. www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/soccer/artikel.php?ID=84361 With us farting around trying to sort out the Spuds, Man Utd look like they are taking advantage of that by sneaking in for Essien. Lyon need a striker. Man Utd may just get him!!! If we really wanted Essien, we wouldn't have dawdled for so long! id="quote"> id="quote">Let him go there after all he said that he liked ManYoo and Sir Ferguson... There is nothing this guy is going to do for us!
  18. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by Hugh BettertonEssien?? Seen him play twice in France - looked a cut above the rest and had heaps of time to play, but that was against mid table French teams. He looked halfway decent in a couple of UEFA CL matches, so who knows? His energy levels look remarkable, so he'd certainly fit in with our style. I suppose that JM has had him watched many times, and watched him himself as well. Guess that if we sign him then any chance of Gerrard's arrival has gone. Still think that CFC will wait for a time to see how much Gerrard really does want to stay with the hubcaps: maybe some disruption to his negoiations will happen!! id="quote"> id="quote">Almost anyone would fit into our midfield the way it is. But the point remains, what EXACTLY are they going to offer the team that is different?
  19. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by PhilH930Listen, the difference between players who are excellent (which Essien probably is) and those that are world class is normally a mental thing. If he is good technically and physically and still young enough to learn then he must have great potential. Under Mourinho, we have a manager that is able to give excellent players a mental edge, educating them in how to play football and get the most out of themselves and the teams system. For this he is simply the best. Therefore, if Jose wants Essien it must be because he is a very competent player who he feels can be taken to a new level under his guidance and become a midfield powerhouse. Besides, we need a midfielder, so if not Essien then who? I'm more concerned about a striker right now! id="quote"> id="quote">Competent player, squad player or average player, Essien is not what we need! If you read my previous postings on this matter, you will see what me and basole have suggested. Mourinho is not GOD and does not know all things. If he was, why is Kezman this poor for us? Why play Huth as a striker against Liverpool in Anfield? Why not go for a playmaker? What midfield powerhouse are you referring to? What powerhouse is he in Lyon? Is he better than Lyon's Juninho? Next question please and maybe let's talk about strikers as this Essien issue is nothing but a false prophecy and unwarranted alarm!
  20. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by THANK GOD PARKER IS GONEBasole, please give the lad a break!!! Does Basole want to tell me guys come to the Premiership and shine that very season???? take examples of Henry (Goonner) and Pires (Goonner) it took them time to adapt and I believe if a manager has faith and moulds a player, he can be good again. Let's wait for one or two seasons, the same Basole will be singing praises for Drogba!!! I will be watching. id="quote"> id="quote">Odd place?
  21. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by basoleI have been down with fever and it seems I missed alot while I was away. hernancrespo dont give up because you have back up. I dont believe emberglance's post that Jose doesnt like latin play makers. If anything, I think he likes them alot. People like Deco,Ronaldinho and Kaka fall in this category and we know Jose's views on these players. They definately are important in the modern game. Look at what the above mentioned player did for their teams las season. Look at what Aimar did for Valencia in 2004. Look at what Zidane did for all his teams up to around 2003. What we need isn't someone that will crwd the midfield when the going gets tough. We need players that can open up our opponents who try this tactic. With Geremi,Smertin and Jarosik, why should anyone worry about crowding the midfield if we need to. However we know that Robben and Duff aren't players that will play the whole season without injuries(for Robben) or fatigue (for Duff). That leaves J.Cole and Eidur to support our toothless Kezman upfront(Drogba also being injury prone). Faced with this situation, I wouldnt sign Essien,Marques,Gravesen,Keane,Gilberto Silva,Carrick etc, I would sign SWP,Aimar,Riquelme,Vicente,Joaquin,etc. id="quote"> id="quote">Basole! Nice to have you back dude! I was wondering where you where as I didn't read anything from you in the last 48hrs or so... Hope you are feeling much better now? It is clear that we reason on the same wavelength on this matter. But when people say that playmakers are not in vogue, then I wonder why they think that way. Playmakers are very special footballers with an exceptional gift in not only taking people on but superb visual and passing abilities. The are craft masters and football artists who love painting their masterpieces in gold. They unlock doors by producing their own keys, they destabilise defences with their wit and they render goalkeepers impotent. It is clearly what Chelsea lacks and what Chelsea needs. Someone whose display can give hope to his mates on the pitch and moreover, someone who can score FREEKICKS like Riquelme did against Germany a few days ago. Their pertinence cannot be over-emphasised that when one looks at what Ronaldinho did for Brazil against a spirited and skillful Japanese side few days ago, you know they are God's gift to football. A maestro like Zidane, an engine room like Nedved with the finesse of Aimar. Imagine where Chelsea would be with a QUALITY playmaker? Miles above the rest!
  22. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by PortugaDo playmakers actually exist in modern football ? I think we sort of have hole players like Ronaldinho , Aimar, Totti - previously Pele, Cruyif, Zico, Zola, Baggio and Maradona. We have defensive midfielders who break up attacks and then start them with short passing - Makelele, Costinha, Basinas and Emmerson - previously Redondo , Tardelli Then we have complete midfileders who run box to box , score , defend etc Lampard, Viera could fit here or in the defensive category and Ballack prevously Bryan Robson , Neeskens, Lothar Matthaus Apart from Zizou I don't see and world class playmakers like Gascoigne , Netzer ,Gerson, Platini, Antognoni ,Falcao...... a few have tried Veron,Rozisky id="quote"> id="quote">Maybe, you are still watching football of yesteryears...
  23. Didier Drogba

    quote:Originally posted by Arjen RobbenI think Adriano would easily bang in 30 odd+ in the prem! id="quote"> id="quote">I agree too but Drogba could his best season ever next season. I am expecting him to bag a treble against the Gooners. Hahaha.....! All things are possible.
  24. Michael Essien

    OK Junno and lamps! Time will tell and we hope to see more of Deco next season and how things fare... We are definitely not far away from singing the same tune. Let's hope Tiago does better for the sake of Chelsea. I really enjoyed this debate and thanks for arousing my football intellect.
  25. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by blue blizI can't figure out why we need more in midfield. The only thing that can be said to missing is a world-class striker. Lyon is trying to be savvy and they are blowing their cover. They want to sell, Chelsea simply does not need to buy him. id="quote"> id="quote">Agreed 100%!