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  1. Frank Arnesen

    That says it all. Those who still believe in blind obedience need a rethink. We cannot seem to get enough of it. Land, sea or air, we can beat them all... Fax, text or email, we are superhuman. Social or not, the timing is wrong!
  2. Michael Essien

    Yeah! Emberglance but same could be said about Mateja Kezman for Chelsea. Kezman always commits fouls and gets booked despite playing a few minutes in most games. Rooney gets booked and commits fouls as well for swearing and being rough. Don't get me wrong though, I admit that Deco tackles a lot and his overall game has vastly improved but his light-weight stature and less competitive edge at times don't make one see the defensive nature in him. Did you notice that he scored only 6 goals? Isn't that a huge decline in productivity for a player like Deco? Anyway, thanks for the info too...
  3. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by gangessquote:Originally posted by hernancrespo Then here comes Stefan Effenberg of Bayern Munich. A master, leader and director of midfield affairs that led them to win the Champions league. He showed how indispensable mature playmakers can be. id="quote"> id="quote"> Pablo Aimar, Zizou, Rui Costa, Deco, D'allesandro,Effenberg. Spot the odd one. Effenberg, not because he is retired, but because he a defensive midfielder, he is a viera,roy Keane kind of Player. So you can't be using him in your argumentation. Jose wants Essien because he fits in his plans. We missed our creative players during the game against liverpool, but then again those were wingers. I don't see Jose going for the players you are talking about, especially not in the premiership. id="quote"> id="quote">Effenberg was a defensive midfielder? You must be dreaming because Owen Hargreaves and Jens Jeremies always played as a defensive midfielders thus leaving Effenberg and Scholl in the middle. Remember that they so used to 4-5-1 with Elber upfront alone sometimes? Please go and check your facts again...
  4. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by Jonnoquote:Originally posted by hernancrespoWhen you talk of Deco being solid defensively, I worry id="quote"> id="quote"> I'm sorry, but you'll find that Mourinho moulded the typical Latin Nº10 Deco to the hard working, tactically astute Barcelona player you see tracking back for the team today, much like he's trying to do with little Joe now. quote:Originally posted by hernancrespoRui Costa was another top playmaker in his days with Fiorentia that he, Batistuta, Balbo and Toricelli won the Seria A for them ahead of the other giants. id="quote"> id="quote"> That never actually happened!? I think you've been playing Championship Manager too much! id="quote"> id="quote">I think I got that one wrong and was actually referring to the Italian Cup win in 2001. Apologies there for the mix-up! But onto you first question of Deco, So what the job of Maniche and Costinha? Be very honest with yourself, how many times did you see Deco track back in Porto and how many times have you seen Deco track back for Barcelona to defend? Is this not the same Deco that played for Portugal in Euro 2004 that football pundits branded as being too forward in his approaches? I have accepted my error regarding Fiorentina and I hope you exhibit such honour when it is obvious on Deco!
  5. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by gronkjaer77I've not lied about my age. I'm 11. id="quote"> id="quote">I believe you Gronkjaer77. At least you are honest! Anymore bullets in your gun?
  6. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by EmberglanceExcluding Deco, Ronaldinho and Riquelme the others you mentioned and could have mentioned are nearing retirement. Both Deco and Nedved have an incredible work rate and are solid defensively as was Zidane some years ago. Those three are complete midfielders and not traditional playmakers. If you go 6-7 years back any quality latin european side had to have a quality Nº10 and many of them did have one, sometimes even two. It's just not like that anymore. The majority now fail to find one that can adapt to the needs of the modern game. I've lost count of the number of super skilled south american playmakers who have been sent home after spending most of their time here on the bench. They simply can't adapt to the pace and defensive demands. Even when they are fantastic players they consistently get sacrificed now due to team tactics. Classy Pablo Aimar spent most of the season on the bench as did D'Alessandro. Portugal for example have always produced a decent amount of traditonal playmakers but there are no promising young Rui Costa's in the national youth teams. There are however a handful of promising youngsters that can do it all. The academies are obvioulsy looking to produce more complete midfielders. How many promising traditional Nº10s did you spot in the U-20 WC for example or in the Toulon tournament? id="quote"> id="quote">When you talk of Deco being solid defensively, I worry but when you mentioned Zidane, I almost collapsed. Deco hardly defends that why he is always involved in most counter-attacks for both Porto and Barcelona. Zidane from his days at Juventus to France and to Real Madrid HARDLY ever defends. In Juventus, he had Montero, Tudor, Birindelli and Ferrara right behind him. For France, he had Blanc, Lebouef, Desaily, Thuram and Vieira right behind him and in fact had more impact than any striker that France ever had then. I am talking of the likes of Papin, Duggary and the young Henry. Being a complete midfielder bothers more on how you can adjust to the right, central and left side of the midfield and your shooting, passing and scoring accuracy rate. Defensive abilities could only form a very insignificant part of being a playmaker. Pablo Aimar has been very very unfortunate at Valencia especially after his stunning show in the 2002 World Cup. Tagged the new "maradona", he was expected to fill into the shoes of Mendietta and also performn the miracles of Diego. He did very well and helped Valencia win the Spanish League under Rafa Benitez and then the UEFA Cup last year. But Claudio Ranieri almost DESTROYED this marvel during his short stay at Valencia that even the bigger players like Angulo thought of leaving. Aimar is a World class playmaker who might needs a bigger stage than Valencia. Imagine what would have happened to Kaka under the tinkerman? If Chelsea had an Aimar, I know Liverpool would have been licking their wounds of being knocked out of the CL. Rui Costa was another top playmaker in his days with Fiorentia that he, Batistuta, Balbo and Toricelli won the Seria A for them ahead of the other giants. He moved to AC Milan for £28m and could not re-enact that same performance. That was surprising to say the least as I really admired his wonderful ball running skills. Then here comes Stefan Effenberg of Bayern Munich. A master, leader and director of midfield affairs that led them to win the Champions league. He showed how indispensable mature playmakers can be. Jens Jeremies was then fashioned out for this role on Effenberg's exit but the problem was that Jeremies started football as a defender and struggled as a playmaker thus forced into a defensive midfielder role. Lastly, I have not been lucky to watch any of the U-20 games at all as it is not shown on any TV station in London within my reach. Not even Eurosports... But I would follow the live feeds at home on my laptop to see what goes on. Gladly, John Obi Mikel is doing well and this link confirms that he is doing the playmaker role. It may also answer your question of the new kids on the block. Please read http://fifa.com/en/news/feature/0,1451,107...rticleid=107831 May he do same for Chelsea!
  7. Michael Essien

    This is good news voodoo! Me and basole have been working round the clock to ensure to ensure that Essien does not come after all, we don't need him!
  8. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by EmberglanceAh lads nice to see peepz discussing football so passionately. Just some info and opinions I'd like to share with you. It's well documented that many africans players lie about their age. In the portuguese league for example, there have been quite a few legal cases involving fake documentation and african footballers claiming their 20-21 and a few years later everyone finds out they should have retired ten years ago. Players from Nigeria and Ghana always raise these suspicions as they have become very popular in such cases. Lately, at least in Portugal, there haven't been any cases detected - or they haven't been made public - which leads me to believe that clubs and authorities have got it much more under control but it wasn't so long ago that the papers here published a list of over 100 african players playing in Europe that had lied about their age. I'm not doubting Essien's age though. He's a far too popular player not to have been investigated. Besides, he's as strong as a bull and never runs out of steam so if he's like that at Chelsea and shows his quality for the duration of his contract, he's age becomes irrelevant. No traditional playmakers please, we sure as hell don't need one now unless it's Kaka. Lampard is by no means a traditional latin Nº10 but he is still a fantastic playmaker - a modern English style playmaker, no fancy footwork or tricks but just as efficient in a extremely fast paced attacking system. The funny thing is that unlike some years ago, there are less and less Nº10s in latin football. JM has publicly manifested his disapproval of traditonal latin Nº10s. He described them as outdated, typically lazy and inconsistent geniuses that sleep during the match and occasionally wake up when they feel like it, to decide the team's fortune. Deco was a typical creative Nº10 and JM turned him into a box-to-box possession hungry midfielder. Tiago was a typical box-to-box possession hungry midfielder that Camacho was gradually employing in an occasional Nº10 role after he ditched the club's natural Nº10s because they couldn't defend or recover possession. At Chelsea, even our strikers are made to defend efficiently so that says alot about what kind of midfielders the gaffer favours. It's all about complete midfielders these days. They have to be able to play in any position at any given time and do it all efficiently. Unless we bring in incredibly consistent genius Kaka who would be extremely productive offensively 4 out of 5 matches and have excellent back-up when things don't work like Milan have with Rui Costa or by moving Pirlo up, JM won't change his system. I believe we need another modern midfielder who has excellent passing and vision and another quality winger. id="quote"> id="quote">Good to read your piece on this at least regarding the age saga... But to say that we don not need a traditional playmaker is questionable and not in tune with modern day football. Ronaldinho is a playmaker. Zidane is/was a playmaker for both Real Madrid and France. Nedved is a playmaker for Juventus and formerly for Czech Republic. Deco was a playmaker but now plays second fiddle to Ronaldinho. Lampard is NOT a playamker and never will be! He is the kind of midfielder that floats around from one end to the other and when it gets to corner kicks against, watch his position. Always close to the edge of a goal post on Cech's right and at times left. Lampard is good at short and long passes but cannot break through a wall via skills. Lampard can shoot but cannot dribble effectively like Zidane or Riquelme would do. For your information, I love Lampard a lot and do not see the need for him to adopt a new role at 27 after excelling in what he does best! If you go back to my first paragraph, Zidane was World footballer of the year some years ago while Ronaldinho is currently the holder. Nedved was European footballer of the year two years ago and Deco was the voted the best player in the Champions league last year. How come these guys are not old fashioned? How come they are that relevant and win top awards? Why are they not viewed as lazy? The point is every player has his ROLE in a team and not everyone MUST defend. Football is a team game and we have employed defenders to do their jobs and on ocassions get help from other players. It's a dynamic world...
  9. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by gangessquote:Originally posted by hernancrespoGangess, you can satisfy your desire and fulfill your belief. Keep hiding under the shield of Robben to justify your claims and always forget the simple facts and not some strange hallucinations! I am talking from experience about the footballers I have met, followed and understood. I am not talking from the back of the tabloids. The logic here should be a litmus test. If we have the grace of life in 5-10 years time, let's see where Robben will be and where Essien will be! Nobody needs a soothsayer to know that Zidane is in his thirties! Forget AW, he serves no purpose here... id="quote"> id="quote"> Man I am not claiming anything. I am just making a point, being that you have no proof Ettien is not 22. You saying it like you have any proof, the only fact here is that you have no fact. you saying you are not biased or prejudiced yet you base your argument on what other african players have done, not on Ettien himself. How can you be so sure he is not 22?? Very simple question and the answer is even simpler: you just don't know. So it is just speculation, the same way I don't know myself if it is his real age. And I am not comparing Robben to Ettien, They are totally different players. Whatever happens in their future careers is down to many factors,and it won't mean anything. So let's not even go there as it is pointless. You said this quote:Originally posted by hernancrespoTo be honest with you, naming Robben with Essien is a misconception and the fact remains that Robben is ACTUALLY 21 years while Essien is NOT 22 years old id="quote"> id="quote"> and your argument is because he is an African, Now this is what I called being prejudiced, and that is my point. So is Drogba 27?? he was born in the Ivory coast, is Eto'o really 24 he was born in Cameroon... We just don't know and therefore we cannot comment on that with the certainty you are showing. The oldest goalscorer at a FIFA World Cup was Roger Milla and he was 42, will you tell me he was actually 50?? id="quote"> id="quote">Are we talking of Ettien or Essien here? You really want the age issue to go on and on and on but that beclouds everything. I have made my points clear whether you view it as being prejudiced or biased is of your own making. The crux of the matter is that I am convinced that we do not need Essien in Chelsea if Mourinho feels otherwise, then so be it. You can bring other African players but the real fact here is that you also have no alibi, so what's your point then? I don't despise African players after all most of them are quality but is all quality needed at Chelsea? Productivity in football remains a function of age. I have just watched a fantastic free kicked goal by Riquelme for Argentina against Germany and that is what we need! The boy is gold and by far better than Essien age or no age.
  10. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by gangessquote:Originally posted by hernancrespo African or European, I say it as it is without bias and prejudice! id="quote"> id="quote"> Man this can't be, you are definetely biased. I am not arguing the fact African players lie on their age (I am very much aware of that), what I am saying is that it happens everywhere and therefore you can't be so 100% sure on Robben's age and doubt Essien's without inside information. I told you about AW lying about his age, if you want more I can tell you even the great Zidane lied about his too. Those 2 are french (European). Don't tell me these cases are exceptions. I know a few more just that they are no famous players. In france this practice is rife, and it is very well organised. Football is Money nowadays and we all know how a couple years can dramatically change the fee paid for a player. I don't know about other European countries but in brazil this is also commom practice and believe me Adriano is not that young. Essien may not be 22 ( I have no idea) but you can't be that sure on Robben's age either. id="quote"> id="quote">Gangess, you can satisfy your desire and fulfill your belief. Keep hiding under the shield of Robben to justify your claims and always forget the simple facts and not some strange hallucinations! I am talking from experience about the footballers I have met, followed and understood. I am not talking from the back of the tabloids. The logic here should be a litmus test. If we have the grace of life in 5-10 years time, let's see where Robben will be and where Essien will be! Nobody needs a soothsayer to know that Zidane is in his thirties! Forget AW, he serves no purpose here...
  11. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by lampshernancrespo: I'm not saying that we need to build a wall in midfield, but we need to be effective, we shouldn't rely on one talented playmaker such as Riquelme. I saw him for Villareal this season and they used 2 defensive midfielders behind him. Also : Deisler is not a defensive midfielder, Bayern have Frings, Hargreaves, Barcelona have Xavi (he played with Marquez and Albertini this year, and with Davids last year, all 3 are defensive midfielders), Juventus have Blasi, Tacchinardi, Appiah and Emerson (he's more of a box-to-box player just like Essien), ManUre have Keane, Miller, Kleberson, Phil Neville, etc. We already have Lampard, Joe Cole, Robben, Duff who can play as attacking midfielders or wingers. Essien is a very versatile player, he can replace anyone in midfield (Lampard, Maka, Tiago). And how do you know that he's not 22? Is it because he's african? id="quote"> id="quote">I have read your list and this is what I have to say. Deisler is not a defensive midfeilder so what is he? An attacking midfielder? A winger? Deisler is a born right winger but has been filling in the defensive midfield role since the ageing Jens Jeremies hardly plays and Frings has not played a single game for Bayern this season! Hargreaves plays a handful of games for them too. For your information the 4 man midfield for Bayern Munich last season was mostly Ballack, Salihamidzic, Deisler and Schweinsteiger(when fit!). Regarding Barca, when was Albertini signed? How many games did he play for Barca? As for Juventus, their first choice midfielders are Zambrotta, Nedved, Emerson and Camoranesi. Don't forget that Camoranesi is the attacking midfielder while Nedved is the playmaker. I have seen you list Kleberson and Miller as defensive midfielders for ManYoo and I laughed. Can you count the number of games they have played? Is a first choice ManYoo midfield made of Keane, Scholes, Giggs and Ronaldo? Isn't Keane there the only defensive midfielder? Regarding the age issue, forget it man as you will not understand or maybe have refused to understand. African or European, I say it as it is without bias and prejudice!
  12. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by basoleListen everyone, if you have watched Essien and Appiah, you will realise that Appiah is more talented,the player that drives the Ghanaian midfield,24 years(if true),plays the same defensive midfield role for Juventus, can also attack the box and Ghana's captain.(generally the man that can play defensive midfield & Tiago's position) Juventus is asking for 5M while we are being ripped off in France. Doesnt Jose read the news? id="quote"> id="quote">basole my guy! Do you think some people will understand after being carried away with this money, money, money syndrome?
  13. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by lampsquote:Originally posted by basolequote:Originally posted by hernancrespo[br Sorry mate, Essien may be good for Lyon but there is NOTHING to convince me that he is what we need at Chelsea. Your piece makes a mockery of his coming and therefore will not attract my attention. Those who actually know what we need talk of a playmaker and that is what makes sense to this mind of mind. Until that emanates, Essien remains a one-season wonder not needed at SB! id="quote"> id="quote"> hernancrespo some people dont seem to understand where we are coming from. I will simplify it like this. If we had an option to buy Ferdinand or Del Horno who would you buy? Which areas are lacking in our team? If you think its the third midfielder like most people wrongly think, should we buy an overated midfielder like Essien for 20M or a quality midfielder like Riquelme for 5M? I need answers. id="quote"> id="quote"> Riquelme isn't really suited for Prem. He's small, fat, and he can't defend. His techniquedribbling might be great but we dont want another Veron. id="quote"> id="quote">For goodness sake, what is all this talk of defending? This is doing my head in guys!!! Is football all about defending? Goodness... These are really bizarre times that I cannot understand. So if Maka defends and Lampard defends, ISN'T THAT ENOUGH WITH THE OTHER 4 DEFENDERS DOING THEIR OWN JOBS AND THE OTHER 4 PLAYING UPFRONT??? We are talking about a playmaker who can unsettle teams, pass incisively and score goals. We are talking of a Riquelme, Kaka, Ronaldinho and Zidane kind of player here! So must all hope be on Robben, Duff and Drogba? Is it a crime to be ingenious in the middle? For the records, Essien and Maka are no different other than Essien scores goals and Maka covers the defence superbly. There is nothing anyone is going to tell me to step down from supporting Tiago and if some people are going to moan about Parker and Forssell not given enough chance to prove themselves, then why shouldn't Tiago be given enough time? rkhlee: You are clearly missing the point here that me and basole are making regarding ages of African players! I do not know whether you have ever lived in Africa before like me and basole have, but I have followed football and have met a lot of Nigerian players both and home and abroad. I have held discussions with them and had drinks also and I know that a lot of them LIE profusely about their ages. From Philip Osundu in the 1987 U-17 World Cup to Pius Ikedia formerly of Ajax Amsterdam to Kanu Nwankwo of West Brom to Jay Jay Okocha of Bolton. There are many more and I am know what I am talking about here! It is a fact that Robben is actually 21 years and you CANNOT convince me that Essien is 22 years. Simple! Back to football matters... the history you have posted about Essien is nothing but ordinary mate. Like I said in one of my previous post, nothing special or spectacular and still a one-season wonder. We are crying that we are being ripped off by other teams but they know that we are a buying club and refuse to develop what we have. Yes! I am talking of Tiago, Jarosik and maybe Smertin. When Smertin scored that cracker against Celtic in the last US tour, people said that he was special. When he played very well against ManYoo, people said he was man-of-the-match. He was left out and then lost form and the same people say, he is useless! The fact that a player has a bad patch does not automatically mean that he is bad. Jarosik was bought after we beat CSKA Moscow home and away in the CL and John Terry said that all the players were impressed by him over two legs. Is JT stupid then that they clamoured for Chelsea to buy him? How many games has Jarosik actually played for us to warrant this nature of witch-hunting? How was Henry, Pires and Vieira at Arsenal in their first six months? It is shocking to see how some Chelsea fans cannot believe in their own players all because of Roman Abramovich's money. Wasn't Tiago a star at Benfica? Hasn't he scored 4 goals for us which is same as Vieira? Hasn't this defensive obsession denied Tiago from going forward and probably scoring more goals? Do we forget that flick for Robben's goal against Norwich? Do we forget his defence splitting pass for Eidur's goal against ManYoo? Is that not suppose to be his role? ARE WE TRYING TO BUILD A WALL IN THE MIDDLE? Look at the great teams in Europe today. AC Milan, Barcelona, Juventus, Bayern Munich and the rest... How many defensive midfielders do they have in their squads? AC Milan has Gattuso. Barcelona has Xavi. Bayern Munich has Deisler. Juventus has Emerson. How many do Chelsea want to have then? Also, if you look at the squad list of these teams, there is at least one PLAYMAKER in all of them. I am talking of Nedved, Kaka, Ballack and Ronaldinho. For your information, Lampard will never be a playmaker as he is not that mobile or crafted for such a role. So who will do it? Essien? It's coffee time...
  14. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by helen elseWell this is a lively debate Jose is definately after Essien so a lot of very unhappy supporters on this site . We will get him we are chasing hard .I do agree we need a playmaker in midfield , but Essien will be able to cover Makelele injuries and tiredness . 20 million my guess way over the top but we are used to being ripped off . id="quote"> id="quote">But will Essien be happy playing a Maka covering role? £20m? Hahahaha...! A striker will do for that Helen or a little bit more.
  15. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by Ovequote:Originally posted by hernancrespoInstead of Chelsea luring Riquelme to the Bridge to spice up our midfield with more potent ideas, some people are clamouring for Essien id="quote"> id="quote"> I have to say I think you and Basole are taking the easy way out. It's pretty clear what kind of qualities Mourinho is looking for when thinking about the third midfield position. We can see how he's instructing Tiago to play for us, we know he thinks Joe Cole isn't working hard enough defensively and we know that two of the players he'd like for that position are Gerrard and Essien. So when people have been discussing alternatives, it's reasonable to think about players in that mold. And, as it turns out, it's quite hard to come up with suitable alternatives. So what you do, is to suggest an entirely different type of player there's no chance Mourinho will be interested in. Riquelme in the third midfield position would be a terrible choice defensively, or, if he's allowed to play his game then Lampard's would suffer. Alternatively, if you're proposing to buy players in other positions, then that's fine, but it's got nothing to do in an Essien discussion. I also think it's more important to target creative, attacking players this summer, that's our problem area, but Mourinho will never play like Brazil and have forwards in most positions. id="quote"> id="quote">Ove, just read your piece and agree with some and disagree with some. I know Mourinho is the coach but is more than OBVIOUS that we lack the midfield flair quality even though Tiago tries his best but once he ventures forward, you can see that the guy has goals in him. I cannot for once understand why we are trying to build a wall in our midfield when we have four solid defenders behind. I mean, our full backs don't venture forward much so why is there ANY need for another defensive midfielder after Makelele? Lampard surges forward but with tact, wisdom and desire but how is Essien going to fit in? In what real sense and what flair will he bring? I still respect Barca especially after what Hector Cuper now coach of Real Mallorca said before we graced Nou Camp. He said with the way Barcelona play, they attack and attack and attack and it's overwhelming. True, that they might concede more goals but that is purely due to poor defenders and a poor Keeper barring Puyol and Marquez. Never have I seen a Chelsea side dominated with such class before and they pomelled our midfield that Maka could hardly breathe but that was because we choose to play defensive! How long will have to wait to sign creative midfielders who can make us miss Robben and Duff less when injured? When are we going to get a midfield dynamite to run the show? This is what Chelsea needs and the man is not Essien...
  16. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by basolequote:Originally posted by hernancrespo[br Sorry mate, Essien may be good for Lyon but there is NOTHING to convince me that he is what we need at Chelsea. Your piece makes a mockery of his coming and therefore will not attract my attention. Those who actually know what we need talk of a playmaker and that is what makes sense to this mind of mind. Until that emanates, Essien remains a one-season wonder not needed at SB! id="quote"> id="quote"> hernancrespo some people dont seem to understand where we are coming from. I will simplify it like this. If we had an option to buy Ferdinand or Del Horno who would you buy? Which areas are lacking in our team? If you think its the third midfielder like most people wrongly think, should we buy an overated midfielder like Essien for 20M or a quality midfielder like Riquelme for 5M? I need answers. id="quote"> id="quote">Very well said basole as I just saw this... These Essien campaigners does seem to understand what is at stake here or what Chelsea really needs. Like I said earlier, do we want to built a wall in our midfield or try to imitate what Barcelona has in Deco, Ronaldinho, Xavi, Giuly and Marquez? See how effective the Barcelona midfield is and how it supports the attack with goals. Maka is an awesome player and he has shown this undoubtably this season. Instead of Chelsea luring Riquelme to the Bridge to spice up our midfield with more potent ideas, some people are clamouring for Essien who after 3 years, I can guarantee will show decline. Some of the pro-Essien actors will never know that these guys lie a lot about their ages! I spent over two decades in Nigeria seeing some of these players grow and people like Kanu is surely 3 years older than me! But is that what he declares? I followed how these footballers from Africa declare very questionable ages that defy the logic of growth, development and sensible progression. If Essien had this so-called potential, where was he 2 years ago? You can easily spot the potential in the likes of Cech, Robben, Fabregas, Rooney, Aimar and the rest because they are GENUINELY young! Let no one be deceived by Essien as what we need. Chelsea's midfield needs flair, creativity and constant potency. That Essien does not have!
  17. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by helen elseWe sell players too cheap and the buy average players too dear . Cannot wait to bring youngsters through our academy and stick two fingers up to all the money grabbing bar stewards. id="quote"> id="quote">Agreed 100%!
  18. Michael Essien

    The guy may be good in France but Chelsea does not need him moreover at the silly price for someone no less than a one-season wonder. If he was that good, how come we are the only ones bidding for his signature? Why did ManYoo and Real Madrid pull out? IMO, Tiago has more flair and passing vision that Essien, so why buy him? It would make sense that if we really need to buy this midfielder, it should be an attacking midfielder with flair. Enough of this spedning ridiculously for someone just known yesterday. A striker is more important than another over-rated midfield man.
  19. Didier Drogba

    Drogba has scored 2 goals for Cote D'Ivoire against Egypt but like I said earlier, still has to do better next season despite being OK last season.
  20. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by Dan Murphyquote:Originally posted by hernancrespoThere's Riquelme out there. id="quote"> id="quote"> Riquelme has completed his move to Villareal for 5m Euros, bargain or what?! id="quote"> id="quote">I am still searching for that news Dan but I will trust your judgement on this. I have watched the 2 games he has played for Argentina in the Confederations Cup and he is quality. His assist and all round midfield contribution is splendid but at that price, it's nothing but a rip off!
  21. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by gangessquote:Originally posted by hernancrespo To be honest with you, naming Robben with Essien is a misconception and the fact remains that Robben is ACTUALLY 21 years while Essien is NOT 22 years old. id="quote"> id="quote"> What kind of nonsense is this? how can you be so sure on Robben's age and doubt Essien's? were you there when Robben was born or it may be the case you grew up together? Don't come up with the excuse African players are known to lie on their ages. This happens everywhere, even Arsene Wenger lied on his during his playing days. Don't tell me you based your argument on looks, because we all know Robben looks much older than he really is. Does Adriano look 23? you can't just say such things without any foundations, I have to agree your arguments are quite weak. quote:Originally posted by hernancrespo What real special quality does Essien have? I have watched this fella and saw nothing special for him to be the saviour in SB. Dwelling on his qualities. Essien acts like an attacking midfielder playing in an average side called Lyon. id="quote"> id="quote"> what kind of special quality are you talking about? One could watch a chelsea game without noticing Maka (most people didn't notice his importance for almost a year), does this make him a useless player, certainly not! And you are wrong Essien is no attacking midfielder, he is by trade a defensive midfielder, if you ain't sure check again! quote:Originally posted by hernancrespoEssien plays for Ghana and does absolutely nothing for them compared to what Andriy Shevchenko does for Ukraine. id="quote"> id="quote"> There is only so much a defensive midfielder can do, are you expecting him to score bag of goals playing for an average Ghanean team? Even Sheva can't quite emulate the success he has with milan for Ukraine. True this year things seem to go well for Ukraine but I don't think he has done much. By the way Essien was on the scoresheet in Ghana's yesterday win over south africa. How about that. If he comes at the bridge he will be a great player, but we shouldn't be taken on a ride by Lyon. id="quote"> id="quote">Been a very hot sunny day out there! Gangess? I am not going to be drawn into some petty and pretty idle argument with you. Like I stated earlier, Robben is 21 years and Essien is NOT 22 years! I have followed football across continents for so long to be deceived by silly issues of age. Ignoring the age factor and concentrating on my points regarding Essien, I REPEAT he remains a one-season wonder and whether you view him as special shows where you are coming from. There is nothing that Essien will add to our squad as I write. What strong arguments have you put through about Essien other than he scored yesterday against South Africa? Is Essien going to solve our right midfield problem? Is that where he plays for Lyon? WHERE WAS Essien TWO YEARS AGO TO ATTRACT THIS SORT OF £22m DEMAND? If I am to live by your understanding of Essien to be a defensive midfielder, Do Chelsea need another defensive midfielder or an attacking midfielder? ARE WE TRYING TO BUILD A WALL IN OUR MIDFIELD OR ADD SPICE TO THE MIDFIELD? If someone says we need a playmaker, then that makes a whole lot of sense and not some ridiculous thinking of another defensive midfielder! Sorry mate, Essien may be good for Lyon but there is NOTHING to convince me that he is what we need at Chelsea. Your piece makes a mockery of his coming and therefore will not attract my attention. Those who actually know what we need talk of a playmaker and that is what makes sense to this mind of mind. Until that emanates, Essien remains a one-season wonder not needed at SB!
  22. Michael Essien

    Helen, why don't we get a playmaker for that position? Why not get a player with flair? There's Aimar out there. There's Riquelme out there. I know that Kaka is out of reach but we could even go for Maschereno? These are far better players with superior abilities to Essien and even younger too.
  23. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by Portugeezerquote:Originally posted by hernancrespoSurprised that because of one great season in France, he has become some people's saviour. That's how we got Mutu after one great season in Itlay and after a couple of good performances for Chelsea, became useless. Before you know it, someone is going to list Bastia as his previous club as if he led them to win the French Ligue. I personally don't want him! id="quote"> id="quote">Would that someone be me? C'mon, he's had two good seasons with Lyon and been playing regularly in the French league since he was 17. Bastia is irrelevent, it's the fact he's very experienced for a 22 year old - that was my point. He's a quality midfielder who looked very impressive when I watched him in the Champions League. We'd do well to sign him. Mutu also had more than one good season in Italy. He was a proven player as he showed initially at the Bridge. He didn't become useless at Chelsea - he seperated from his wife, started shagging porn stars and taking coke. That would affect anyone's on-field performance! He'll be a success at Juve because he has the talent and his problems should be in the past. If you don't like a player that's fine, but your arguments are weak. How can you compare Mutu's character and ability with Essien's? And after all, we bought Robben after 'one good season' but he turned out okay! id="quote"> id="quote">My arguments weak and yours strong? Let's be real... Essien remains a one-season wonder! The mentioning of Mutu was to indicate that one-season wonders elsewhere might not do the job with Chelsea. To be honest with you, naming Robben with Essien is a misconception and the fact remains that Robben is ACTUALLY 21 years while Essien is NOT 22 years old. What real special quality does Essien have? I have watched this fella and saw nothing special for him to be the saviour in SB. Dwelling on his qualities. Essien acts like an attacking midfielder playing in an average side called Lyon. The same side that lost 4-2 to ManYoo in Old Trafford in the CL. What does he have that will displace the likes of Tiago? He is physical but surely not exceptional. Juninho who is 30 years old is does spreads play while Essien simply tries to imitate Maka's role but has the advanatge of scoring more. Essien plays for Ghana and does absolutely nothing for them compared to what Andriy Shevchenko does for Ukraine. Even in a poor team, an exceptional player still stands out! Essien was in Bastia and then Lyon for a year and nobody knew him but the clamour for him to redeem our flattering midfield is bizarre. What will he bring to Chelsea? Does he supply the balls forward like Lampard? Can he cover the right side of our midfield? Is he meant to be our engine room? Is he the new Fernando Redondo? Certainly not! Because he scores 11 goals in the season then he has to come to Chelsea? Fallacy mate... What Chelsea missed was Robben and Duff and that gap cannot and will never be filled by Essien. If he does come, I shall remind you of my cross-examination of him. Nothing special. Nothing interesting. Nothing spectacular! End of story...
  24. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by ihusainyhName me one great signing for any club in England from French League? Heinze could be one, more? id="quote"> id="quote">I agree with the exception of Robert Pires, William Gallas though to add to Eric Cantona but the quality they had had been there for years unlike this Essien of a guy... The woeful list includes Laurent Robert, Pascal Cygan, Djemba-Djemba, Cisse, Bruno Cheyrou, Sinama-Pongolle, Wiltord and the rest of the gang!
  25. Michael Essien

    quote:Originally posted by James PrescottWrong again hernancrespo, he's had two superb seasons in France as well as two good seasons in the CL. Apparently he's been highly rated by those inside football since he was very young and it's been in the last two or three years that he has started to really show his potential. Listen to what scouts and coaches say about him - all good. He will not be "another Drogba" - not that Drogba was all that bad - 15 goals in 35 games in an injury hit first season in England isn't too bad. id="quote"> id="quote">So Angel Michael Essien has set alight the entire French Ligue on fire for two seasons? Interesting... and how come nobody knew or even wanted him last season then? Amazing... Then James Prescott falls for the fact that he says he is 22 years old and young. Fibs! Take it from me absolute fibs! OK... Essien joined Lyon from Bastia in July 2003 and has had two seasons there winning the French Championship scoring 6 league goals this season and 5 in the CL this season, therefore he has to muscle his way to into Chelsea? I don't buy that idea... I believe that if we need to get another midfielder I would not hesitate if it is Riquelme or Baptista rather than Essien. The simple fact that he is very good for Lyon does not automatically mean that he will be awesome for Chelsea. If he was so hot, how come ManYoo and Real Madrid have pulled out from signing him? Regarding Drogba, I want him to remain and prove himself next season as his first season has not been bad but could have been better. That being said, his all round game hasn't been outstanding and some of his first touches have been worse than mine. Look at someone like Ibrahimovich of Juventus, he has been a revelation in Turin and that was for £10m.