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  1. quote:Originally posted by Blue Jock

    Maybe I have missed something here, as I have been away for a few days but, to my mind, Drogba didn't improve against Liverpool. He's the same player he always was (and for avoidance of doubt, I have not been a big fan).

    What happened was we got him to play differently. For a year, he has been trying to be a big target man. This shows him at his weakest. Poor control among other things. However, at Anfield, we got him running in the channels for just about the first time since he arrived.

    Every one of his goals came from him running in space at the opposition from a wide position. He drew the sacred Carragher and Hyppia (who looked as if he was pulling a caravan by the speed he was doing) wide and into places where they were not comfortable and he looked like the player we bought from Marseille, rather than the one who has been playing for us for the past year. His challenge is to keep doing that. And for those who think he became a striking God at Anfield, just remember the swipe he took at the ball for the third goal when he sclaffed it into Joe Cole's path. Same as it ever was.


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    Your beautiful post simply connotes what some of us have been saying on this thread. One good game and some are singing his praise to the high heavens as if he scored a hat-trick in Anfield. Form is temporary while class is permanent!


  2. quote:Originally posted by Bazzablue
    quote:Originally posted by Harry Sideras
    quote:Originally posted by Khobar

    I find it very disappointing that a thread which was started in order to give Drogba a little praise, has descended into more Drogba-bashing. Has he not been criticised enough in other posts? It's almost as bad as the Liverpool influx.


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    The last sentence has it bang on IMO. These characters are supporters of something that isn't Chelsea. Chelsea aren't Mr Right for them - just Mr Right-now. They'll be off the moment our current largesse is unavailable for them to indulge their fantasy-football imaginings.

    I sincerely believe that's the difference between their wishes and those who are looking at the long term best interests of this club.


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    id="quote">I'm not sure what you're on about here, Harry.

    There is a very significance between Chelsea the club and any individual who might at some stage play for the club. Yes, these ARE supporters of "something" that is, indeed, Chelsea. It certainly does not mean blind praise for anyone wearing a blue shirt or for any decsion made by those running the club.


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    A very perfect response to a very imperfect question!


  3. quote:Originally posted by Michael Tucker
    quote:Originally posted by Bazzablue

    ]Well done Michael.

    Can you please make such a mistake more often?


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    Anything for you, BB, you know that.


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    Ah! MT and BB team up against hernancrespo? Searching for my gun before I go to paradise...!


  4. quote:Originally posted by DiMatteo.43
    quote:Originally posted by hernancrespo

    Defending Drogba? I would first of all compare him to Darren Bent of Charlton and then ask him to attend lessons for a HUGE improvement on his ball skills and techniques. To be frank on this, I am fed up of defending Drogba and after this season, he can please go back to Marseille!

    True, he had a very good game against Liverpool partly due to one moment of brilliance but the other assists could have been laid by Kezman. To make a good story bad, he MISSED the easiest chance. What does that tell you? The man isn't right for the job and he is ONLY playing ahead of Crespo because of the £24m transfer fee.

    Back to my first paragraph, a close look at Darren Bent who came from Ipswich and who is youngster has more clinical, ball and striking skills that Drogba. Look at the goals that Bent has scored and how he has carried Charlton this far?


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    id="quote">Just reading through and Friday is always a good time to wind up Hernan because we know he'll be having a few beers at lunch time ! ;-) but is Mr Why-must-we-buy-one-season-wonders now gazing longingly at Darren Bent ???


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    Hahaha! Just got back from the pub and the few pints of Guinness I had is just wetting my appetite for Brandy at home before I'm done...

    But Darren Bent has proved what I have said here before that a player can emerge from a lower division and take the premiership by a storm and perform brilliantly. MT was arguing over this sometime ago I remember and may be times flies faster. I admire Bent's courage and explosion and to make matters worse, he plays in 4-5-1 formation that Drogba is currently doing and under-performing. Who supports Bent on the wings? Rommedahl and maybe Jerome Thomas!

    Darren maybe a one-season wonder for now but honestly speaking, the boy have a great future in sight because he is all about skill, finesse and intelligence. Drogba has power and that can hardly ever develop compared to the earlier attribute. What has been Drogba's weakness with Chelsea? Finishing and ball skills. What has been Bent's strength with Charlton? Skill, precision and beauty.

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  5. MT, well the end will always justify the means. If you notice, I didn't include Arsenal and ManYoo in my list because as far as England are concerned, we have nothing to emulate from them currently. But when you look abroad at the teams that have the clout and true potential, then my listings come in.

    Like you rightly pointed out, Crespo is no doubt better than Drogba but for him to deliver the goods, there has to be some understanding and that will come by playing regular football. Not even RVN can enter a game 15 mins to the end and perform wonders or even Ronaldo of Real Madrid.

    I am basically talking of us winning the Champions League as that will actually put us on the pedestal that Roman Abramovich and all of us want to see our beloved Chelsea team. It shall surely come to pass...


  6. quote:Originally posted by Khobar

    Wouldn't that mean we're a team of deadbeats except Joe Cole then? Although I suppose we could change the analogy slightly and base it on Arsenal instead of Liverpool.

    Sold them shirts yet?


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    Well Khobar, it depends on what you actually mean... The reason for my submission of these stats is to highlight the earlier points I made regarding top teams having top marksmen. Drogba has played virtually every game we have played this season and his goal's tally is questionable as to why he continues to lead our attack. Vieira today said that our attack is too predictable and this connotes the issues that I have been saying for a while.

    We just need to think about these things before we claim greatness like my friend Bazza is already doing...


  7. quote:Originally posted by Bazzablue
    quote:Originally posted by Michael Tucker

    hernan - I deleted your last post by mistake.


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    id="quote">Well done Michael.

    Can you please make such a mistake more often?


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    I guess you seeking a response from me that you wouldn't get!


  8. quote:Originally posted by Michael Tucker

    hernan - I deleted your last post by mistake. Could you re-send, please?

    Sorry about that. M.T.


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    Well, I hardly remmber what I wrote MT but will send the link regarding Chelsea and how far Drogba has fared. In 6 games if I remember correctly against Liverpool, he has only destroyed them once and scored one goal against them overall. Hardly a record to be proud of as a top striker that he is now made to be all of a sudden.

    Just for the last link, please read and see our current stats of goal scorers... http://home.skysports.com/topscorers.asp?clid=8&cpid=8


  9. quote:Originally posted by Michael Tucker
    quote:Originally posted by hernancrespo

    AC Milan has Shevchenko scoring but does that stop Kaka, Gilardino, Seedorf and Maldini from scoring? Barcelona have Eto'o but does that stop Ronaldinho, Deco and Guily from scoring? Bayern have Makaay but does that stop Ballack, Demichelis and Lucio from scoring? Juventus have Trezeguet but does that stop Vieira, Nedved and Cameronesi from scoring?


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    No, it doesn't. Which is fairly irrelevant considering that nobody was suggesting that it does.

    The teams you name-check don't solely rely on their world-class strikers for goals. And, they don't collapse if these strikers aren't scoring, because the goals come from elsewhere on the park. That was the point afterall - that it is better to have goals coming from a range of sources, than be exclusively reliant on your "gun" striker(s) -and your examples tend to prove the point, rather than disprove it.


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    I don't get your point made MT. Goals can come from anywhere but MOSTLY from the top strikers mentioned. Look at the stats of these clubs and goals scored by those mentioned especially the strikers. Sure, they don't solely rely on these strikers for goals to be scored but they still rely on these strikers for goals. That's my point. Also view the below stats and probably see where I am coming from...

    http://home.skysports.com/topscorers.asp?c...lid=128&cpid=21

    http://home.skysports.com/topscorers.asp?c...lid=120&cpid=21

    http://home.skysports.com/topscorers.asp?c...lid=178&cpid=23

    http://home.skysports.com/topscorers.asp?c...lid=156&cpid=22

    See who tops the scoring charts there and they are strikers!


  10. AC Milan has Shevchenko scoring but does that stop Kaka, Gilardino, Seedorf and Maldini from scoring? Barcelona have Eto'o but does that stop Ronaldinho, Deco and Guily from scoring? Bayern have Makaay but does that stop Ballack, Demichelis and Lucio from scoring? Juventus have Trezeguet but does that stop Vieira, Nedved and Cameronesi from scoring?


  11. quote:Originally posted by MARK KELLY

    A real toughie this one and I think we can settle it in one word - consistency.

    But one thing I will say in his defence is that he clearly cares about the team and the players around him and the fans - he's not worth 24 Million pounds but who is? Robben cost 16 million and has actually shown what he's capable of about twice this season and for me is far more dissapointing.


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    Sorry Mark and just to correct the files, Robben cost only £12m....


  12. Haha! I love a little rant...

    Khobar: You haven't been aware that I have been defending Drogba before? Just ask Bazza.

    HL49: You are a top guy and will join me in paradise soonest! I know I was a bit harsh there but I appreciate you understanding of the other contents of my post.

    Robin: I thanked Drogba in my piece didn't I? The earlier you see the hernancrespo and basole points from a less bias angle, the better. Drogba isn't the ideal striker we need and it is bizarre we have a more clinical striker on the bench while he bullies defences on the pitch.

    Abdel: Crespo has hardly had his chance to play and in fact has not played a full 90mins yet to get any rythm of even understand his team mates. Only JM knows why but like Alan Hansen said sometime ago, he knows whom he would prefer to play against. Unleash Crespo and see the damage he will do to our opponents with his intelligence and supreme football.

    Graeme: I never said I knew Mourinho's mind because he is special in his own way just like I am in my own way of football thinking. JM plays Drogba to intimidate defenders while I will play Crespo for the sake of the beautiful game. Give me this present squad and I will bring the Champions League trophy down to Stamford Bridge. Remember, what Didier did against the Pool was a one-off in 4 games! Says it all doesn't it?


  13. Defending Drogba? I would first of all compare him to Darren Bent of Charlton and then ask him to attend lessons for a HUGE improvement on his ball skills and techniques. To be frank on this, I am fed up of defending Drogba and after this season, he can please go back to Marseille!

    True, he had a very good game against Liverpool partly due to one moment of brilliance but the other assists could have been laid by Kezman. To make a good story bad, he MISSED the easiest chance. What does that tell you? The man isn't right for the job and he is ONLY playing ahead of Crespo because of the £24m transfer fee.

    Back to my first paragraph, a close look at Darren Bent who came from Ipswich and who is youngster has more clinical, ball and striking skills that Drogba. Look at the goals that Bent has scored and how he has carried Charlton this far? How can a team like Chelsea have a hitman whom you hardly know what you get? Is it the same with AC Milan and Shevchenko? Is it the same with Barcelona and Eto'o? Is it the same situation with Inter Milan and Adriano? Is it the same with ManYoo and Van Nistelrooy? Is it the same with Arsenal and Henry?

    I congratulate Drogba in helping us win emphatically in Anfield but any other striker in his position would have done same and better! He flatters too much and his ball control remains the worst I have seen from a striker in a while. Crespo is miles ahead of Drogba in every aspect apart from the physical strength side and if Crespo had the run of Didier in our team, he would at least have scored 8 goals now.

    Rant over!


  14. Drogba said that with a good pre-season, he will be on fire. Is he flaming anyone? NO! I really wonder how on earth we signed him and why he cannot even control the ball talkless of beating his man. Hyypia is not even in Europe's top 20 defenders and yet, had Drogba for dinner without a doubt. He couldn't even get to the end of Duff's cross in the first half and instead choose to have a running battle with the referee. Give me a half-fit Crespo anyday and if Drogba does not score or do well on Sunday, he can start looking to January as a possible exit date!


  15. quote:Originally posted by David80
    quote:Originally posted by hernancrespo

    Sorry mate, you are getting me and yourself lost here. Steph Appiah was forced out of Juventus by better players. 80% of what again? OK please see the facts below and argue accordingly...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/t...ity/4470869.stm

    http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/6717.html


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    Not to intervene hernan but aren't you actually supporting cyrus views with these links? Cyrus stated that Appiah played pretty much every game in his first season (2003/04) which your link supports (30 games out of 34). The following season he had problems since he played in Athens and lost his place to Blasi (again supported by your link, 18 games out of 38) but did play some in the end (which yet again is supported by your link to the article where Bruce declares his interest)...

    So I'd say he is already arguing according to these links you provided.

    The only thing cyrus may have got wrong is that over the last two seasons Appiah hasn't played 80% of the Juve games but rather 66.6% of Juve's league matches. In his first year he played 88.2% of Juve's league games.


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    No! Read Cyrus'es post again and see what he said. Oh! you did quote him and then you say maybe... He said that Appiah played & started at least 80% of the games that Juventus played in the last 2 seasons. Dead wrong!

    So Appiah went to Athens for how long then? How far did Ghana go in Athens? So Marcello Lippi bought Appiah and he was the only player that Fabio Capello inherited? Didn't Mourinho inherit Maka? I don't know how you interprete these things but they seem peculiar and one-dimensional.


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    quote:2 points that you are wrong. Juventus did not have a weak midfield before buying Vieira. They only needed re-enforcements and I wonder where you get this idea from and Appiah was never a regular at Juventus.

    Secondly, do you know the age that Vieira left France to join AC Milan before joining Arsenal? Do you know what year that was? Where was Essien? This last post of yours is confusing...

    Your post itself is double standards because you are still comparing Essien with Vieira which is a huge joke. To say that I concentrate on individuals rather than Chelsea's results is yet again, double standards! When will you ever write about another Chelsea player?

    2010? Maybe...


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    hernan, Juve's midfield wasn't as strong as you make it to be. And yes, Appiah was a regular in his first season after transferring from Brescia. Why do you think Davids left? I expect a Juve fan like you to know that Appiah played started over 80% of Juve games last two seasons. Actually, he was a favorite of Lippi. Appiah's problems began when Capello arrived and also Appiah missed most of the preseason preparing for the Athens olympics with Ghana. Blasi partnered Emerson at the beginning of the season yet lost his place to Appiah towards seasons end. Appiah scored 2 goals in the last four Serie A games of last season.

    So you see, Vieira basically faced no competition as far as playing time when he transferred to juve. Essien on the other hand has proved all skeptics wrong (basole,you, John Collins etc) by claiming a regular spot at Chelsea and making the midfield stronger.


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    Sorry mate, you are getting me and yourself lost here. Steph Appiah was forced out of Juventus by better players. 80% of what again? OK please see the facts below and argue accordingly...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/t...ity/4470869.stm

    http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/6717.html


  17. quote:Originally posted by cyrus
    quote:Originally posted by hernancrespo

    Sure wins Cyrus... The team is winning not an individual just like in the days of Tiago and everyone is contributing. Muntari has scored 3 goals for Udinese but you cannot compare Udinese with Juventus or him with Vieira. To say that Vieira is not better than Essien is sinful mate. Just not possible whether by CV or present day hype. I never want to see Chelsea lose by any means but Essien is NO way better than Vieira. To go to a Juventus team and battle for places with Emerson, Cameronesi, Nedved, Zambrotta, Blasi and others and excel shows your quality. No doubles standards mate just something to remember.

    Just by wondering, are you Essien's agent? You only write about Essien here and I am still waiting for you to analyse other Chelsea players. Haha! It seems I will have to wait longer...


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    Hernan, you realize I did not say that Essien is better than Vieira. I merely pointed out the anomaly in your critique and double standards with regard to Essien. Having said that, I could make a legitimate argument that indeed Essien is better and more efficient than Vieira. Getting a starting place in Juventuz was a certainty for Vieira considering their weak options in midfield. Remember Stephen Appiah was a regular in the Juventuz midfield last season and that did not make him better than Juventuz. Everybody knew Capello went in for Vieira to fill the second midfield spot alongside Emerson, hence that was no surprise.

    Essien (a foreigner) performed at a consistently higher level in the French league than Vieira did in the past. Couple that with Essien's seamless transition to the preimership and you realise how good he is. Vieira could not even make it in the Serie A in his first try at Milan. Where was Vieira when Essien was dominating the French league and propelling his team to 2 consecutive CL quarter final appearances? Vieira could not handle the pressure of captaining France in the absence of Makelele, Zidane and co and the French WC campaign only got back on track after the veterans came out of retirement. Meanwhile, Essien was leading Ghana to its maiden appearance at the WC.

    No doubt, Vieira is a good, solid player but an arguement can be made that currently, Essien is better and more efficient. Why can't you talk about the merits of Vieira's game without denigrading Essien play and contribution to Chelsea? You seem to be more content praising individual favorites rather than concentrating on Chelsea's results.

    And, I have absolutely no relationship with Essien. Only met him a couple of times. Actually I wish I was his agent, I'd be mad rich!!


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    2 points that you are wrong. Juventus did not have a weak midfield before buying Vieira. They only needed re-enforcements and I wonder where you get this idea from and Appiah was never a regular at Juventus.

    Secondly, do you know the age that Vieira left France to join AC Milan before joining Arsenal? Do you know what year that was? Where was Essien? This last post of yours is confusing...

    Your post itself is double standards because you are still comparing Essien with Vieira which is a huge joke. To say that I concentrate on individuals rather than Chelsea's results is yet again, double standards! When will you ever write about another Chelsea player?

    2010? Maybe...


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    It seems to me that some Essien doubters are waiting for a Chelsea loss or his dip in form and then start reigning in the critizisms.


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    You only write about Essien here and I am still waiting for you to analyse other Chelsea players.


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    Could that be because the title of this topic is Essien by any chance?


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    Think so...


  19. quote:Originally posted by cyrus
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    Did I read this properly? Guess not... It may surprised you that I am a Milan fan and not a Juve fan. But you have to be honest, Vieira has scored THREE goals in his FIVE league games in the Scudetto and you just have to give it to him. Vieira I watched was awesome against Parma creating and scoring goals. How can you say that the goals were opportunistic goals? Did you actually see yesterday's goal and the build up? Do you see where Vieira was for the pass he gave Cameronesi before popping even ahead of Trezeguet to score a deft header? Maybe you don't like Vieira maybe...

    If you want Essien, please take him now and pay me later! Hahaha...


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    Hernan, Hernan!

    You never cease to amaze me with the Essien critique. Talking about Vieira, isn't it a little too early to start making comparisons with Essien. It seems disingenuous for you to say that Essien should not be judged based on two or three games yet go ahead to sing the praises of Vieira. Talk about double standards!

    Vieira scoring 3 goals in the young season certainly does not make him a better player. Sulley Muntari (Udinese) has scored 3 goals in the four four serie A games yet I wouldn't rate him above Essien. The season is still young and Essien has a lot more chances to impress and score goals. IMO, he lives up to expectation by putting in a couple of Man of the Match performances. Isn't this what Chelsea asked for? Wins!

    It seems to me that some Essien doubters are waiting for a Chelsea loss or his dip in form and then start reigning in the critizisms.


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    Sure wins Cyrus... The team is winning not an individual just like in the days of Tiago and everyone is contributing. Muntari has scored 3 goals for Udinese but you cannot compare Udinese with Juventus or him with Vieira. To say that Vieira is not better than Essien is sinful mate. Just not possible whether by CV or present day hype. I never want to see Chelsea lose by any means but Essien is NO way better than Vieira. To go to a Juventus team and battle for places with Emerson, Cameronesi, Nedved, Zambrotta, Blasi and others and excel shows your quality. No doubles standards mate just something to remember.

    Just by wondering, are you Essien's agent? You only write about Essien here and I am still waiting for you to analyse other Chelsea players. Haha! It seems I will have to wait longer...


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    Juve is replete with one-dimensional players, as we say in Italian. Your infatuation with Juventus is unbecoming of a CFC fan. That Vieira has scored on two opportunistic strikes is no reason to compare him to Essien. Remember, Essien is still wet behind the ears and will, for the next 10 years, dazzle football fans across the globe once he moves to AC Milan. Meanwhile, Vieira is nearing 48, the last time I checked.


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    Did I read this properly? Guess not... It may surprised you that I am a Milan fan and not a Juve fan. But you have to be honest, Vieira has scored THREE goals in his FIVE league games in the Scudetto and you just have to give it to him. Vieira I watched was awesome against Parma creating and scoring goals. How can you say that the goals were opportunistic goals? Did you actually see yesterday's goal and the build up? Do you see where Vieira was for the pass he gave Cameronesi before popping even ahead of Trezeguet to score a deft header? Maybe you don't like Vieira maybe...

    If you want Essien, please take him now and pay me later! Hahaha...


  21. quote:Originally posted by gronkjaer77

    He's not getting any younger. I say sell him beofre we can't get even £5m for him. Look what we had to do to get rid of Hasselbaink.

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    Haha Gronks! You always make me laugh buddy! Nice one...


  22. quote:Originally posted by DiMatteo.43

    To be fair Basole's on record saying he may of been mistaken about Essien .... course it's still very early days though and all the "Pro-Essiens" were saying "Lets judge him after a season not just two or three games" so no need to change that just yet ....... looking good though !

    Hernan I think still needs a little convincing from what he was saying yesterday but that's OK, if the boy does good we're all winners ... Hernan, sorry to speak for you mate - where are you this morning ?! what did you make of him last night ?


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    Not spectacular. Still not special DiMatteo.43. Did you watch the Juventus vs Parma game? Have you been watching Vieira's performances for Juve? You will think again honestly if you did...


  23. Here they go... Essien is this and Essien is that. I personally is not convinced of his abilities. He may run all over the place, tackle most balls but in my eyes, he is nothing special. If Vieira was still around in the premiership, he would have been dwarfed.

    I watched Juventus over the weekend against Parma and Vieira in the last 2 games for Juventus has scored twice! In fact, he scored in their 1-0 victory the week before and now again, created the frist goal by Cameronesi and then simply made the second goal and ran upfront and scored a deft header. That is quality! That is a £13.79m buy for Juventus at 29 years earning £90K a week.

    Essien has done nothing yet to warrant all these praises and I am bored with it. So so bored with all this hype and all this, "I told you or said so" stuff. Let him prove himself like Vieira has done in a team brimming with excellent quality all round. At ONLY £10m, I can understand some of the noise made here. At £24m, we are having a larf...