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Bit rude. I'm going back to not posting because this kind of thing just pisses me off. Totally needless. I'll have another watch.

This is the same as the point we debated re Werner after the last game. I'm inclined to agree with you this time. I have to say that although there was outrage on this forum I have to agree with Neville that Tammy moves his body into an unnatural position to play for the penalty. I've got no problem with him doing that (and think based on the current interpretation of the rules the penalty should've been given). However, there is an obvious risk in doing that and Tammy suffered for it today.

This aged well.

Yeah I agree Kepa did. Although when the ball is about to get booted into the box from a corner and the camera zooms out he just looks completely lost in the melee. It makes me very nervous.

This has been a tough watch.

Ahh yes. That's what it is! I couldn't work out why Souness was being so negative about him.

I would say being a goalkeeper is dangerous, rather than it being dangerous play on the part of Werner. Werner was just being a fast striker and doing what he was supposed to be doing. To pick that out and make that argument after what was an excellent performance by Werner (followed by a really honest interview) you'd have to be feeling particularly bitter and be wearing your red specs of hate.

Why? Plays it past the keeper, tries to run around the keeper, gets taken out by the keeper. We see it time and time again. Unless you're saying it's a case of the keeper's going to win the ball and Timo kicks it out of the way of the keeper at the last moment and the keeper inevitably makes contact. I'd have to watch it again but I still think dangerous play is a stretch.

50/50 is a bit much. Maybe 70/30 in favour of it being Rudiger's fault but you certainly can't entirely excuse Mendy because he did that indecisive thing of coming for it and then not, which he seems to do a lot. If he had stayed still it wouldn't have gone in. It was a ridiculous pass though. I feel more comfortable with Mendy than Kepa but he's nowhere near Courtois/Cech (and maybe even Cudicini) standard but I think we all assumed that when he arrived.

Haha he really is. Utter drivel and as somebody else said, double standards. His logic for why Werner is struggling didn't seem to be a "lack of quality" but rather a "lack of effort". He obviously hasn't been watching because it's the complete opposite of what we've seen. Timo's touch has been heavy and his finishing hasn't been clinical but he has given everything in every game he has played. Keane and Richards seemed to disagree for what it's worth.

Souness has a real bee in his bonnet about Werner. Saying the penalty was dangerous play by Werner...

Agree. Very good.

Yeah, his nephew I think.

Can we all just agree that Werner is not ****. He's still hugely valuable even when not scoring.

Nice turn followed by a slightly short pass.