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On 03/12/2019 at 9:44 AM, Sciatika said:

Nothing will happen. When the West Ham LBGT+ supporters group, Pride of Irons, respond by claiming that "there are other clubs who have ingrained problems" you really have to question whether they have any real interest in the issue. Why would the behaviour of other clubs be an excuse for the behaviour of their own fans?

Because a large proportion of  fans use  whataboutism in virtually every aspect of their club towards other clubs behaviour both on and off the pitch 

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Classic Daily Mail headline on the City racism story:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7767597/Manchester-City-fan-makes-monkey-noises-gesture-Manchester-United-midfielder-Fred-derby.html

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Racism storm as Manchester City fan 'makes monkey sounds and gesture' towards Manchester United player Fred during derby match as club works with the police to find culprit... a year after Raheem Sterling was abused by Chelsea supporter

 

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I have only seen short clips but a steward was next to him and did not react and the gestures I saw were not monkey type?

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2 hours ago, r.bartlett said:

I have only seen short clips but a steward was next to him and did not react and the gestures I saw were not monkey type?

I think the point being made was the Mail shoe-horning Chelsea into a totally unrelated "racialist" event .

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1 hour ago, Mark Kelly said:

I think the point being made was the Mail shoe-horning Chelsea into a totally unrelated "racialist" event .

You are correct, Mark.

And the footage I've seen (which has been concealed by MotD and BBC news, unlike the incident at the Bridge, and has also been taken off the Twitter post) was crystal clear - both the verbal abuse and the monkey gestures.

I fully expect the FA will shut that part of the ground and deduct points, as advocated by Raheem Sterling.

(I could be posting that in an ironic tone, though).

Edit: Just read the Guardian's report on yesterday. Some things stood out:

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The issue of racism in English football has hit the headlines again almost a year to the day since City’s Raheem Sterling was subjected to racially abusive language and threatening and aggressive behaviour at Stamford Bridge.

The news comes after a video circulating on social media appeared to show a Manchester City fan making monkey chants towards Manchester United players during the second half of the match.

Interesting how the one incident is presented with the phrase 'appeared to be', while the one at the Bridge is not. 

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4 hours ago, Backbiter said:

You are correct, Mark.

And the footage I've seen (which has been concealed by MotD and BBC news, unlike the incident at the Bridge, and has also been taken off the Twitter post) was crystal clear - both the verbal abuse and the monkey gestures.

I fully expect the FA will shut that part of the ground and deduct points, as advocated by Raheem Sterling.

(I could be posting that in an ironic tone, though).

Edit: Just read the Guardian's report on yesterday. Some things stood out:

Interesting how the one incident is presented with the phrase 'appeared to be', while the one at the Bridge is not. 

Can you link the video as what I have seen there are 3 stewards around him and one actually stands in front of him and none of them do anything. 

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It used to be managers only who covered their faces while talking at matches.  Then it was the coaching staff.  Now it is the players and even the ref team is getting coy.  
Next step I guess is inevitable.

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35 minutes ago, Droy was my hero said:

It used to be managers only who covered their faces while talking at matches.  Then it was the coaching staff.  Now it is the players and even the ref team is getting coy.  
Next step I guess is inevitable.

The self censorship path the west is going on  is quite Orwellian in nature..

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