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chara   
14 minutes ago, thevelourfog said:

I do find myself wondering how easily absorbed huge wage cuts would be for even the wealthiest footballers. The easy, and tbf probably often correct, assumption would be that most PL and above level players would still very comfortably live in luxury on 30% of their wage. But I imagine there will be plenty of them mortgaged to the hilt and who lifestyles and wealth hinges on steady cashflow to prop up other ventures. Not that I necessarily have that much sympathy for those in that situation, but in practical terms I can imagine many very wealthy footballers would find themselves in huge financial difficulty (if not poverty by any means!) with even short-lived wage cuts and would strongly oppose them. 

I wonder if earning less might even mean being more able to absorb cuts by virtue of having fewer fingers in pies ... 

Give the PL trophy to the NHS imo!

 

Good to see you here TVF.

Interesting viewpoints and make a lot of sense..I appreciate you are not trying to make a "sob" story for players. I think same as the "real" world the sensible ones will have it covered as best they can and the "less than" sensible ones will struggle.

Just reading some of the things posters here have mentioned about what they are facing..albeit stated very low key and with no poor me approach...makes the situation look as damaging at it is.

I consider myself lucky in that we are on a "fixed" income although that is getting less fixed by the day and we have to be sensible all the time so we just tighten up a little and make the best of it.

I feel for those with families to support..financially is hard enough but keeping the fabric of a family together is just as difficult.

Keep safe everyone and keep your hearts open for all to feel....

 

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24 minutes ago, thevelourfog said:

I do find myself wondering how easily absorbed huge wage cuts would be for even the wealthiest footballers. The easy, and tbf probably often correct, assumption would be that most PL and above level players would still very comfortably live in luxury on 30% of their wage. But I imagine there will be plenty of them mortgaged to the hilt and who lifestyles and wealth hinges on steady cashflow to prop up other ventures. Not that I necessarily have that much sympathy for those in that situation, but in practical terms I can imagine many very wealthy footballers would find themselves in huge financial difficulty (if not poverty by any means!) with even short-lived wage cuts and would strongly oppose them. 

I wonder if earning less might even mean being more able to absorb cuts by virtue of having fewer fingers in pies ... 

Give the PL trophy to the NHS imo!

 

I really doubt there are many who share your concerns.
Covid-19 will see a return to big government, high taxes and the introduction of basic income.  Hardly anyone is going to express solidarity with massive earners in the next few years.

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13 minutes ago, Droy was my hero said:

I really doubt there are many who share your concerns.
Covid-19 will see a return to big government, high taxes and the introduction of basic income.  Hardly anyone is going to express solidarity with massive earners in the next few years.

Oh, I'm not concerned for them; I'm very much a pinko lefty and have advocated for universal basic income for many years. On a forum where being overtly political doesn't get you an immediate a ticking off I might have added an "oh well, f**k 'em" for effect! It was simply a musing on how practical/convenient wage cuts would be for footballers. Nationalise sports! 

To link back to the media though, the BBC are today reporting that PL and Championship clubs are contemplating furloughing their playing squads ... Anyone understand enough of the process to explain what that could mean?

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Ham   

Phil Thompson on Sky Sports News talking about how Gary Neville started the rush to give back by opening up his hotels.......

Still rewriting history. 

 

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JaneB   

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8164501/Worthing-owner-slams-FA-declaring-sides-non-league-division-null-void.html

My local team owned by a very brave young man.

He has a point.  Everyone should be treated the same.  It has to be null and void now.

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chara   
3 hours ago, JaneB said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8164501/Worthing-owner-slams-FA-declaring-sides-non-league-division-null-void.html

My local team owned by a very brave young man.

He has a point.  Everyone should be treated the same.  It has to be null and void now.

Absolutely right...give Liverpool the title..who really cares anymore?.....sort out what cash awards should or shouldn't be and just start again when it is feasible..not rocket science.....the complicated financial aspects can be sorted out by the FA/League bureaucrats....not as if they have anything else to do.

The GAME isn't just EPL....reaches down to the real grassroots..without that there is no game.......and thank you for brining a brave man to my/our attention.....

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chara   

There are many players at lower levels with modest pay cheques semi-pro or lower division players who are/will suffer the same as others in the non sporting world...even if the income is just to compliment a family income...Not just football of course...and the "Above Everyone" crowd are worrying about the big clubs?

Keep safe....

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On 28/03/2020 at 2:38 PM, Droy was my hero said:

I really doubt there are many who share your concerns.
Covid-19 will see a return to big government, high taxes and the introduction of basic income.  Hardly anyone is going to express solidarity with massive earners in the next few years.

I would not be so sure. A return to big government yes, but I am unsure everyone will turn left and it is just as likely that they will turn further right. I say this as the situation could easily get spun as to why you need your country to be self efficient in the manufacturing of goods and that CV shows why you need strict boarder controls. 

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16 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I would not be so sure. A return to big government yes, but I am unsure everyone will turn left and it is just as likely that they will turn further right. I say this as the situation could easily get spun as to why you need your country to be self efficient in the manufacturing of goods and that CV shows why you need strict boarder controls. 

They will turn anti-elitist (which some would prefer to call populist).  Which is a mixture of left and right (the ultimate being national socialists - but I'm sure we won't go that far).
It has happened already in other European countries.  Border controls, yes,  - Schengen no longer exists.

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JaneB   
19 hours ago, chara said:

Absolutely right...give Liverpool the title..who really cares anymore?.....sort out what cash awards should or shouldn't be and just start again when it is feasible..not rocket science.....the complicated financial aspects can be sorted out by the FA/League bureaucrats....not as if they have anything else to do.

The GAME isn't just EPL....reaches down to the real grassroots..without that there is no game.......and thank you for brining a brave man to my/our attention.....

Well no I don't care anymore either.  We've all got bigger worries at the moment.  But I don't think Liverpool should be 'given' the title, otherwise by logic you've got to award titles to all the top teams throughout the leagues and then follow on with promotions and relegations.  All or nothing and it's just not workable. 

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