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GURJ SS   

I am probably on my own, but I can't help but feel a little relieved over the Stones thing. I haven't seen him much, but those performances did not speak to me of the kind of consistency I expect to see in a CB for that kind of money. Personally, I'd prefer to keep the money see Davey, Christensen or Kalas given a go. We won't know if they can step up until we try them. Alternatively, push Brana into the back four and play Traore or Kenedy as a wing back.They are not short of pace.

I'm relieved too, the money we would need to spend could buy 3 talents that are less known to the media. Where were our scouts when Stones was at Burnley, we missed the boat on a homegrown talent when we are now desperate for a homegrown talent, our scouting system seems to be 3 years behind.

I think an established left back makes more sense short term, with Azpi moving to right back and Ivan moving to centre back; if lack of pace is the problem, although I don't think it is. In terms of numbers and cover, Rahman coming in has helped us hugely and given us good options.

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Sea foot   

Up to 40 mil for a CB is damned expensive but if he became the next Terry, I.e. regular starter for the next 10 years or so, then it would probably be cheaper than buying a CB in their prime every 3 or 4 years. Plus it would mean that the back line would be settled rather than learn to play with new players each time.

Just another way of looking at the money spend.

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Have to disagree with the seemingly generally accepted view on here. There's a dearth of top class centre backs everywhere. There's even less top class English ones. Gary Neville wrote about it last year and his points are still true now. I recall him using the examples of Luiz and Mathieu to illustrate how top clubs are struggling to find suitable replacements. Mangala is another. £40m for a young centre back is madness, but that's the market these days. Stones is homegrown, premiership tested, a full international, and possesses some combination of grit, composure and finesse.

There's a reason also rans like Garay are being mentioned as alternatives. He'd not even be thought of if there was a larger, higher quality pool of available talent.

If we don't get Stones this year, I can see US paying more next season for him, or giving up on getting someone English and going abroad again. If we want an English spine, there aren't many alternatives out there.

Must say I do agree with your general point here. The pool of players in world football who actually make a difference is incredibly small and the fact that there's a a lot of money floating about in England means English teams pay waaaaay over the top for players who are just slightly above the European average. By only looking at the money dished out and the wages paid it seems the difference in quality should be bigger. But because there's so few of those players around we end up paying ridiculous fees for players who really aren't much better than a £5-10m player from let's say France or Spain.

Part of the problem is the wages paid over here. Once you sign a player that player will immediately get a salary that's in line with the rest of the squad like any other work place really. And so it continues without you actually getting the quality your buck suggest you should. Because there aren't that many quality players around that genuinely would justify such fees.

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Apparently we're in for the 'chinese Sergio Ramos'; Stones alternative or the segway into the Asian market for Chelsea that Park Ji Sung was for United? 95% chance it's the latter.

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Apparently we're in for the 'chinese Sergio Ramos'; Stones alternative or the segway into the Asian market for Chelsea that Park Ji Sung was for United? 95% chance it's the latter.

Work permit will be the problem. Like I said earlier, I'm not up on Greg Dyke's new rules 100%. Can't see us going for a 26 year old without confidence of having a work permit granted

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I like KDB

Not sure he is exactly what Man City need though.

Yep. Also, if you believe the comments coming out of Wolfsburg, what they've (City) offered is quite extraordinary.

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