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Media always get it wrong eh? Here is is a story from two months ago claiming that Lukaku was United's number one target this summer. Which it turned out he was.

(This is when we were considered favourites for him.)

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/11/romelu-lukaku-summer-transfer-target-jose-Mourinho-manchester-united-everton

The final story, below, also mentions it (right at the bottom), and is from six weeks ago.

So actually, the media DID call United's interest a while back. But like many of us, they wrongly assumed we were favourites.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/manchester-united-transfer-news-gareth-bale-real-madrid-latest-a7770331.html

What the media DID get wrong is in assuming we were favourites. But they've been saying United were interested for a while.

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8 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

Personally I believe that through their "extensive" "Sources " (agents) the entire media got it wrong , they'd probably heard that Morata was leaving Madrid , they'd heard Lukaku was leaving Everton.

They they thought   "Hang on , here's a photo of Michael Emanalo laughing it up with Lukaku - he MUST be going to Chelsea"

Hence weeks and weeks and weeks of articles about how "Morata is the best forward in the World and he's going to United".

All of a sudden they're left with egg on their faces and Morata is our second choice and really it's Lukaku who apparently loves Mourinho and would "run through a brick wall for him" despite the utter scandal of Chelsea , with their famous disdain of young players showing the impetuous child out the door.

They simply all backed the wrong horse , and , not for the first time either and are using the whole story to lay the boot in again (ad nauseum )

Couldn't agree more.

Cue infinite Sky Sports stories of Lukaku shaped wonderment 

As for Pogba's role in Lukaku's transfer its no wonder...

...as he's desperate for someone else overpriced to make HIM look better value for money :)

Edited by The Fab 4

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17 hours ago, Kezza said:

Bayern is after James, exactly the sort of player we should be after. Why aren't we in for him? We could do with another creative forward that can play the Hazard/Pedro/Willian position.

Because James had one good world cup and has been mediocre (relative to price tag) ever since. Not got much pace or physicality which makes him a risk in the PL IMO

10 hours ago, Michael Tucker said:

Certainly. And then Belotti, Morata, Lewandowski, Suarez, Neymar, and Aguero (in no particular order). All superior to Costa, imo, and without the baggage he brings.

Suarez - no baggage? . 

8 hours ago, Michael Tucker said:

. As I said before, imo Costa won't be missed.

 

Bonkers.

Reached 50 PL goals in fewer games than Aguero, without being a regular penalty taker. That shows how phenomenal his goal record has been. Not good, phenomenal. That is ignoring everything else he brings to the table with his hold up play, linking with Hazard / Fabregas / Pedro etc..... It's also not only about numbers - important goals too. 

Criminally underrated striker. How can we not "miss" him unless we bring in a striker who is on the unobtainable list like Messi or Suarez?

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6 minutes ago, James Prescott said:

Here is a story from four months ago claiming United wanted Lukaku.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4355906/Lukaku-Chelsea-Man-Utd-Raiola-gets-big-deals-done.html

And there is is a story from two months ago claiming that Lukaku was United's number one target this summer. This is when we were considered favourites for him.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/11/romelu-lukaku-summer-transfer-target-jose-Mourinho-manchester-united-everton

The final story, below, also mentions it (right at the bottom), and is from six weeks ago.

So actually, the media DID call United's interest a while back. But like many of us, they wrongly assumed we were favourites.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/manchester-united-transfer-news-gareth-bale-real-madrid-latest-a7770331.html

There's nothing to say we weren't favourites - we've got history with the player after all.

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7 minutes ago, paulw66 said:

Because James had one good world cup and has been mediocre (relative to price tag) ever since. Not got much pace or physicality which makes him a risk in the PL IMO

Suarez - no baggage? . 

Bonkers.

Reached 50 PL goals in fewer games than Aguero, without being a regular penalty taker. That shows how phenomenal his goal record has been. Not good, phenomenal. That is ignoring everything else he brings to the table with his hold up play, linking with Hazard / Fabregas / Pedro etc..... It's also not only about numbers - important goals too. 

Criminally underrated striker. How can we not "miss" him unless we bring in a striker who is on the unobtainable list like Messi or Suarez?

Asked to leave multiple times. 

Flirted publicly with Athletico the last two summers - he even was on record as saying he wanted to go last summer but we wouldn't let him. 

Used Conte's text message as leverage to blackmail us into selling to Athletico at a knock down price.

Plays half a season every season, only turns up when he chooses to. 

I don't want someone of that kind of character anywhere near my club to be honest. He is replaceable and causes more problems than he's worth.  Yes, when he has played well he's been unplayable, and been superb for us, no one doubts that, no one doubts his contribution in recent years. But I'm done with his antics, and so is Conte, quite clearly - it's time to move on.

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Just now, James Prescott said:

Asked to leave multiple times. 

Flirted publicly with Athletico the last two summers - he even was on record as saying he wanted to go last summer but we wouldn't let him. 

Used Conte's text message as leverage to blackmail us into selling to Athletico at a knock down price.

Plays half a season every season, only turns up when he chooses to. 

I don't want someone of that kind of character anywhere near my club to be honest. He is replaceable and causes more problems than he's worth.  Yes, when he has played well he's been unplayable, and been superb for us, no one doubts that, no one doubts his contribution in recent years. But I'm done with his antics, and so is Conte, quite clearly - it's time to move on.

You're not really addressing the point I made. Yes he has flirted with AM and wanted out, but we will miss him on the field, (perhaps that is clearer?) unless we replace him with one of the world's top strikers. 

As for the text message - surely only one person was to blame for that. If Conte never sends it, there is no leverage. 

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Can't blame Conte for wanting rid off Costa's drama...he goes from being the best number 9 in Europe to the biggest headache - possibly decided by which side of the bed he gets out of on any given morning. A managers dream...and nightmare. But possibly the best half a season striker we've ever had...and we're going to have a hell of a job on our hands replacing him for that half season...

We need to be weary of getting ripped off in a second rate James race. A luxury, cameo player imo, he lacks the consistency and the workmanlike qualities Conte admires. A knee-jerk, inflated transfer should be avoided like the plague.

 

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4 minutes ago, paulw66 said:

You're not really addressing the point I made. Yes he has flirted with AM and wanted out, but we will miss him on the field, (perhaps that is clearer?) unless we replace him with one of the world's top strikers. 

As for the text message - surely only one person was to blame for that. If Conte never sends it, there is no leverage. 

His goals actually won games , which is more than can be said for Lukaku.

We will absolutely and massively miss him in that respect but , you just never know what's around the corner , maybe Morata or Belotti will be even better?  ( obviously before SKY campaign about their diving /violent play )

We've gotten over similar losses before , we never thought we'd replace Drogba or Robben or Makelele but we did eventually with Costa , Hazard and Kante.

You just never know .

As for the text message do we even know it's true ! Just because a want away striker reports it ?

 

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32 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

As for the text message do we even know it's true ! Just because a want away striker reports it ?

 

But that alone would be enough to get rid of him.

The club and Costa have had plenty of time to dismiss reports of a text message or unrest, I think it's best for our club that someone like Costa leaves. However we will massively miss his aggression on the pitch, our current players and additions will have to have the right mentality, be tough and resilient; I'm only concerned with the loss of aggression if Costa leaves.

Hopefully we close the deal for either or 2 of Morata, Belotti, Aubameyang.

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1 hour ago, paulw66 said:

Bonkers.

Reached 50 PL goals in fewer games than Aguero, without being a regular penalty taker. That shows how phenomenal his goal record has been. Not good, phenomenal. That is ignoring everything else he brings to the table with his hold up play, linking with Hazard / Fabregas / Pedro etc..... It's also not only about numbers - important goals too. 

Criminally underrated striker. How can we not "miss" him unless we bring in a striker who is on the unobtainable list like Messi or Suarez?

Absolutely spot on

This is a huge call by Conte if true.

If Costa goes and his replacement does not hit the ground running and the team struggle in the PL and CL, there will be only one outcome?

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