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Holymoly   

Scum aside I think we may be going back to the good old days where the entire league isn’t really that far apart.  I was beginning to fear the league was becoming a two tier affair but now every team is capable of screwing things up. The way we play under Frank is so exciting and enfuriating at the same time. Love it.

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Bearing in mind that I am unable to watch matches live (thanks to Sky no longer showing much and BT having taken over responsibility, and most streams being a poor excuse for dating/porno/betting websites) and have to listen to the radio - a return to the days of my youth - I’ll await MOTD before confirming Mr Moly’s opinion but ..... from what I hear of today’s match .... I am on tenterhooks. 

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Some excellent goals from the lads today. It’s fantastic to see these young lads giving everything for the shirt and running themselves into the ground.

Thought Rudiger made us look more assured, may have been the formation change as much as Rudiger. Zouma was excellent in the 2nd half, Bats showed some single mindedness when he came on, must have had about 5 half chances to score. Tammy took his goals really well, especially the third goal. Willian added some guile and experience to our play.

Wolves got in and around us at times, I thought we were a bit careless on the ball on occasions when pressured. It didn’t really cost us today, but we need to improve on this in the middle.

All in all a great result and it’s been at least 5 years in the making now, but it’s great to see the academy lads finally given a chance .

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Ham   

It's not been mentioned much but Alonso was very good today.  Looked very comfortable. 

 

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Rob B   
18 minutes ago, Ham said:

It's not been mentioned much but Alonso was very good today.  Looked very comfortable. 

 

He was -  so was Willian to be fair, and Dave, and Zouma when he came on.  All of whom have had a bit of stick lately. 

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Leo91   

Just watched MOTD highlights. Wow. 

That 3rd goal was like watching Drogba in his peak; not a great first touch, the ball is caught under his feet, but then he uses strength to keep the defender at bay, uses some skill to beat him, and a brilliantly drilled low shot into the corner.

Some actual great analysis by Shearer. He tugs at Coadys arm to buy himself a yard to get in front of him for the Alonso cross. So astute for a 21 year old.

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kev61   
10 minutes ago, Rob B said:

He was -  so was Willian to be fair, and Dave, and Zouma when he came on.  All of whom have had a bit of stick lately. 

When you have a manager that can see that the midfield is disaster and is willing to try different things to solve the problem bodes  well for the future.one swallow doesn't make a summer of course but Frank is obviously aware that the midfield is a major problem unlike many of his predecessors.The future looks bright - who would have thought the academy players could do so well?...I did because the alternative was to play multi - million pound planks.g

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Frankly conceding 2 goals when 4-0 up is worse than conceding the 4 against Man U chasing the game, or even the 2 2s against Norwich and Sheffield, who at least were giving us a hard time.  Whatever it is, it is not a sign that 3 at the back makes us stronger defensively.  

A much more neutral block, we got caught out much less and to be fair, weren't pressed that much in return 

 

All in all it was a funny game.  Tammy got 2 (net) for the third game running.  Each goal Kepa conceded somehow managed to improve his saved percentage stat!  According to XG Bats should have been top scorer ( sum of his chances weighted by probability he should score was 1.28), while Tammy should just about score 1 (0.98) and not so much a surprise, Tomori goal was a 1 in 50 chance.  The first 30 mins of this 7-goal thriller were probably the most boring football I have seen in years.   8 hours of entertaining test cricket and then that drab half hour.

Tammy - 3 brilliant goals, though I blame him for the OG - should have been watching.  
Each of the 3 deserves 2 or 3 paragraphs extolling why it was so good.  Giroud couldn't have scored any of them.  Bats might have got the won with the 270 degree turn.  

On leading the line I still think he does pretty good, and he is getting very good when receiving the ball to his feet.  First just look how hard he is working to make himself available.  2nd look how often he is getting fouled from behind.  No point in doing that unless you fear what the striker might do.

 

3 minutes ago, Ham said:

It's not been mentioned much but Alonso was very good today.  Looked very comfortable. 

Kind of.  Traore looked immense though till he came off.  Not quite sure how Alonso is not implicated.

6 hours ago, The_Ghost said:

(posted at h/t)  Strange game. 3 shots on target for the first 45, all in the back of the net. The high press is gone and we play a medium block defending in numbers when we don't have the ball. More patient build-up. It's a completely different side. That is a big plus for me, if Frank has the ability to change it up depending on the opposition we will be so much better for it. 

I thought the great thing about Frank was that he was determined to play attacking football whatever.  1 game in a different style and he gets credit for being the Tinkerman.
I think he is making an obvious move 4 games late.  

Still 6 games into Conte's first season, the obvious problem was too many players sitting in our own box with a block on our own 6 yard box.  He fixed that by changing to 343 (or something closer to 532) and essentially saying anyone who is not a CB has to go out and chase opponents so that the block is pushed forward closer to the half way line.
5 games into Lampard's season the obvious problem was an ultra high block, with FBs, all 3 midfielders and front 3 very eager but simply not fit enough or good enough to carry it out.   Replacing a CM with a CB seems to have cured that for once.
(but again, we still conceded 2 goals, this time against a team that had nothing really to play for.  It helps they style, not the defending - Conte again).

I think we need to watch a few more games to decide whether Frank is being pragmatic or just changing his convictions every now and then.

6 hours ago, The_Ghost said:

I've been saying for years we need to give the youngsters a proper go. Finally it's happened and just see how well they are doing. Conte had no interest, neither did Benitez or Mourinho. Sarri did better that all of the previous three, but no way would he have given Tomori, Mount, Abraham and Christensen this chance. 

Just imagine we still have James, Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi to return. 

Really?  Who?  Christensen a year earlier (if his contract had allowed it)?  Perhaps.  Tammy last year?  Too early after a so so year at Swansea.  RLC earlier???  CHO at 16?

Lets be clear Christensen was the first decent candidate we have had since JT.  The first player we have had as good as the young Jody Morris.  Manager after manager needs to be praised for not picking all those dozens of young Chelsea players who weren't good enough.  While Conte, Sarri and Lampard should be praised for picking the ones who are good enough.  But frankly, since it is only the managers and a few coaches that really get to see the players training in the first team squad, I suspect it hasn't been all that difficult a choice.

3 hours ago, Leo91 said:

(about goals conceded) The more disappointing of those is the Sheffield match. There are caveats in the Man Utd game; after going 1 behind we went for jugular and they capitalized with every attack in the first competitive game of the season against a untested Chelsea side. I don't think there is anything wrong in the latter three on paper.

No - it is far worse to concede against a beaten team who is already 4-0 down than teams such as Norwich or Sheffield that were still very much in the game.  It might feel better, but it isn't.  SFL seemed pretty relaxed afterwards, but I'd hope that is just for the cameras.

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22 minutes ago, kev61 said:

When you have a manager that can see that the midfield is disaster and is willing to try different things to solve the problem bodes  well for the future.one swallow doesn't make a summer of course but Frank is obviously aware that the midfield is a major problem unlike many of his predecessors.The future looks bright - who would have thought the academy players could do so well?...I did because the alternative was to play multi - million pound planks.g

???????  The manager just dropped one CM to pick an extra CB.  That doesn't seem like Frank is worried about his midfield - just the opposite.

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kev61   
1 minute ago, Droy was my hero said:

???????  The manager just dropped one CM to pick an extra CB.  That doesn't seem like Frank is worried about his midfield - just the opposite.

Ah! I see things passed you by as usual - imo the midfield were fluid as it should be in every game we got men behind the ball when under pressure we also got players forward when we dominated it is a very easy concept!

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