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13 minutes ago, Droy was my hero said:

It isn't a false 9 unless you have players further up the pitch than you.
 

Agreed. There's nothing false about it. 

He's 6 ft 2, can hold the ball up, good in the air and runs in behind. If he'd never been seen as a midfielder before noone would question it for a second. He's a brilliant player. 

I can't wait to see what these players do next year under TT. 

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Jasonb   
22 hours ago, Droy was my hero said:

I think we should all be proud with the work Marina has done in the last 3 years.

Kai Havertz Bay. Leverkusen £72.00m
Timo Werner RB Leipzig £47.70m
Ben Chilwell Leicester £45.18m
Hakim Ziyech Ajax £36.00m
Edouard Mendy Stade Rennais £21.60m
Thiago Silva PSG -
Mateo Kovacic Real Madrid £40.50m
Kepa Athletic £72.00m
Christian Pulisic Bor. Dortmund £57.60m
Jorginho SSC Napoli £51.30m

(transfrmarkt prices)

Most of them are starters, all the others are very close and on a 5 man bench.
And the amazing thing is that no one else has been bought - which given the previous couple of years is incredible.

Good point about the 5 man bench yet let's recall that season with the transfer ban may have had a bearing on more player acquisitions.

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20 minutes ago, Jasonb said:

Good point about the 5 man bench yet let's recall that season with the transfer ban may have had a bearing on more player acquisitions.

I can't see how that ban would have helped with our purchases.  Just makes what has been achieved more impressive IMO.

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1 hour ago, Droy was my hero said:

I can't see how that ban would have helped with our purchases.  Just makes what has been achieved more impressive IMO.

Let's not forget that with the exception of Mendy and Chilwell the rest have only really improved under TT at best under Frank they were a work-in-progress.

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5 minutes ago, Jasonb said:

Let's not forget that with the exception of Mendy and Chilwell the rest have only really improved under TT at best under Frank they were a work-in-progress.

Except at their previous clubs where they were great, and in the case of Jorginho and Kepa they were a lot better pre-Lampard.

I guess there are two opinions - that the players were poor when Lampard received them or they were only poor when Lampard managed them.

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11 minutes ago, Droy was my hero said:

Except at their previous clubs where they were great, and in the case of Jorginho and Kepa they were a lot better pre-Lampard.

I guess there are two opinions - that the players were poor when Lampard received them or they were only poor when Lampard managed them.

I think it is more that TT like Conte is playing a well defined system. 

I also think his relationship with the players is better, he speaks several languages and looks upbeat.

Frank looked pretty dour at times that must have conveyed to the players.

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18 minutes ago, Jasonb said:

I think it is more that TT like Conte is playing a well defined system. 

I also think his relationship with the players is better, he speaks several languages and looks upbeat.

Frank looked pretty dour at times that must have conveyed to the players.

The rest follows. 

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Blue Rod   
5 hours ago, Droy was my hero said:

It isn't a false 9 unless you have players further up the pitch than you.
 

How often must a No 9 have players further up than him to count as a false 9. Against RM at SB Havertz came into the box from behind more often than not.

Yes, he's got the height, the frame, can stay upfield, hold the ball up and do a No 9 thing. But that is not what he he's been doing in a Chelsea shirt, is it? TT rarely deploys a true No 9. It's not just his style. And I agree with him. In the modern game, a true 9 is a waste or a luxury, depending how you look at it.  

 

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                                  Mendy

james christenson zouma Rudiger Alonso

odi Kante Jorginho pulisic

havertz

hope we don't go to 4-3-3 that's being rumoured 

 

 

 

Edited by Worsebytheday

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4 minutes ago, Worsebytheday said:

                                  Mendy

james christenson zouma Rudiger Alonso

odi Kante Jorginho pulisic

havertz

hope we don't go to 4-3-3 that's being rumoured 

 

 

 

Is that the starting 11? Was hoping Kante got a rest.

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