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2 hours ago, jangz said:

Then I guess what it means to break in.. I am talking about competing for minutes.. but most big teams have star players in these positions.. and also its probably the position where you have a lot of people who are great at one skill/attritbute but not rounded enough to be the absolute best.. just the fact that there are so few HG players starting in these positions tells me while on paper it maybe easy to get minutes.. breaking in is absolutely neccessary..

Everyone gets minutes at AM.  There is so much rotation all the time.  Scott Sinclair got minutes.  
All it tells you is that the only guy we have had that is good enough has been CHO.  (Or RLC if he or club every give up on the idea that he is a CM playmaker and realise that his ability to beat a man with pace is best used where it will least hurt us when it goes wrong).

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Chelsea's Class of 2008 - Where Are They Now?

 The Chelsea Academy eight-year-olds in 2008

The Chelsea Academy eight-year-olds in 2008

1: Marc Guehi

Highly rated defender who made his debut in the 7-1 win over Grimsby.

Born in Ivory Coast, his family moved to London when he was young and was spotted by England as a schoolboy.

Captained the Young Lions to the World Under-17 Cup, and signed a new three-year deal at Stamford Bridge this summer.

2: Andrew Demby

Midfielder who was eventually released by the Blues but was then snapped up by Crystal Palace.

Spent eight years at Selhurst Park before being released in June. Now plays for non-league Staines Town.

3: Taylor Munroe

Didn't make the grade at Chelsea, last known playing for non-league Leatherhead.

4: Tariq Uwakwe

Midfielder who is a regular in the development squad and tipped to be another who makes the first team breakthrough.

Signed a new three-year deal in the summer with the option of a further 12 months, is also an England under-19 international.


5: Jamie Cumming

Highly-rated goalkeeper who was an unused sub against Grimsby on Wednesday night.

Already capped by England U19s, in his second year as a professional at Chelsea and regarded as someone who could break into the Premier League squad next season.

6: Reece James

Another Under-17 World Cup winner, James was sent out on loan to Wigan last season as an 18-year-old - and was voted the Championship club's player of the season.

Missed the start of the season through injury but finally made his debut last night, and is expected to make regular appearances in the Premier League during the current campaign.

7: Harrison Hume

Released by the club and spent time with Kent non-league sides Margate and Rochester.

8: Conor Gallagher

Central midfielder who was tied down to a long-term deal by the Blues last year.

Sent out to spend the season on loan with Championship side Charlton, has scored three goals in eight appearances so far.

England U19 international with big expectations.

9: Jamie Bradley-Green

Defender who just failed to make the cut at Chelsea after leaving school, but went on to sign a scholarship with Southampton.

Looking for a club having been released by Saints in the summer.

10: Rhian Brewster

Highly-rated England youth striker who decided to leave Chelsea to join Liverpool.

Another U17 World Cup winner, already appearing for the first team at Anfield and tipped for big things by manager Jurgen Klopp.

11: Martell Taylor-Crossdale

England U20 international forward who rejected the offer of a new contract at Chelsea earlier this year amid interest from several clubs.

Travelled to Bundesliga side Hoffengheim for a medical but ultimately decided to sign a two-year deal with Fulham.

12: Dujon Sterling

Long regarded as big hope at Stamford Bridge, made his first team debut for Chelsea in 2017.

The defender was part of England's Euro Under-19 winning side in the same year, and spent last season on loan at Coventry.

Now playing for Wigan for the current campaign, is tied down to a contract at Chelsea until 2022.

13: Finlay Savill

Left the club as a schoolboy. Current whereabouts unknown.

14: Harry Riley

Defender who missed the cut when he left school, last seen in the system at non-league Hendon.

15: Ian Carlo Poveda

Attacking midfielder who also spent time in the academies of Arsenal, Barcelona and Brentford.

Then snapped up by Manchester City, and made his debut for Pep Guardiola's side in last season's Carabao Cup semi-final win over Burton.

Already part of the first team squad at the Etihad, and a regular in England age groups for the past four years.

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18 minutes ago, LeBoeufsGolfBall said:

^ After all these years of being dismissive of our youth players......don’t tell me you are getting all starry eyed about them now 😃

I think we should be following what Frank said in his press conference today - the goal isn't just getting academy graduates into the first team, it's succeeding with these players. No one is saying that we're happy to focus on youth development whilst neglecting first team results. Some of these players are good enough to play in the premier league already, and some of those that played against Grimsby will need loans before their ready to play regularly in the first team.

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23 minutes ago, LeBoeufsGolfBall said:

^ After all these years of being dismissive of our youth players......don’t tell me you are getting all starry eyed about them now 😃

(who were you posting as before?  Surely you haven't gone back and checked my posts going back to the mid noughties?)

The current kids are certainly a lot better than anyone we have had before (Christensen I discount as he came in at 16).  So yes I have been dismissive of some of the kids others have raved about - Josh McEachran is a good example.  Though my only doubts about Tammy have been when, not if.  Generally I think of all the kids as individual lottery tickets not certainties.

It is funny, I spent all those years moaning about what a waste of effort Frank Arnesen was and it turns out that the only smart thing he ever did was to beef up training for Under 8 year olds. I know U-8 training existed before FA, but it seems to me that Chelsea really boosted it to a much higher level and others caught up later.

This was probably the only thing he got right, and we have had to wait until Tammy for a real player to come though.  Hudson Odoi was 6 when he started at Chelsea.  James is there in the U-8s.  Guehi too.  Mason Mount was 6.

(strange fact - no player who started at Chelsea between 9 & 15 has broken through)

Whether top class U-8 training really makes a difference I guess we won't know for a while, but pretty soon every other big club followed us and did the same.  My guess is that we have a 3 year advantage over other clubs.  I believe we lost the U16 title for the first time in a long while last year.

Training or early selection of best talent?

It may be it is the training, in which case England should really benefit as the standard of English players goes up at all clubs.
Or it may be that by offering U-8 football, and being well known for it across the South of England, we got the most talented kids with the most ambitious parents long before any other club got their hands on them.  In that case this is a 3 year spell ahead of our rivals and they'll be matching us soon.

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6 minutes ago, Droy was my hero said:

(who were you posting as before?  Surely you haven't gone back and checked my posts going back to the mid noughties?)

The current kids are certainly a lot better than anyone we have had before (Christensen I discount as he came in at 16).  So yes I have been dismissive of some of the kids others have raved about - Josh McEachran is a good example.  Though my only doubts about Tammy have been when, not if.  Generally I think of all the kids as individual lottery tickets not certainties.

It is funny, I spent all those years moaning about what a waste of effort Frank Arnesen was and it turns out that the only smart thing he ever did was to beef up training for Under 8 year olds. I know U-8 training existed before FA, but it seems to me that Chelsea really boosted it to a much higher level and others caught up later.

This was probably the only thing he got right, and we have had to wait until Tammy for a real player to come though.  Hudson Odoi was 6 when he started at Chelsea.  James is there in the U-8s.  Guehi too.  Mason Mount was 6.

(strange fact - no player who started at Chelsea between 9 & 15 has broken through)

Whether top class U-8 training really makes a difference I guess we won't know for a while, but pretty soon every other big club followed us and did the same.  My guess is that we have a 3 year advantage over other clubs.  I believe we lost the U16 title for the first time in a long while last year.

Training or early selection of best talent?

It may be it is the training, in which case England should really benefit as the standard of English players goes up at all clubs.
Or it may be that by offering U-8 football, and being well known for it across the South of England, we got the most talented kids with the most ambitious parents long before any other club got their hands on them.  In that case this is a 3 year spell ahead of our rivals and they'll be matching us soon.

It was more of a tongue cheek comment really.

I used to post under Zoowraa. I thought you knew that.

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6 minutes ago, Droy was my hero said:

(who were you posting as before?  Surely you haven't gone back and checked my posts going back to the mid noughties?)

 

 

Zoowra I believe

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4 minutes ago, LeBoeufsGolfBall said:

It was more of a tongue cheek comment really.

I used to post under Zoowraa. I thought you knew that.

Probably knew, certainly forgot.  It is nice be able to link names to  er names.  
But yes I was making the same point for 2 decades.  I genuinely think it is the players that have changed, not me.
I also think it is the quality of the current bunch which has lead SFL to picking them, not that SFL is much different to previous managers.  
For example I don't think a 19 year old RLC or Josh McEachran would be getting PL time from Frank.

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The rubbish username probably don’t help. It’s pointless without the picture

Relates to Wimbledon coming to the bridge and battering us 2-4 .Efan Ekoku and Marcus Gayle destroyed Frank LeBouef in one of his first games. He ended up with this massive lump the size of a golf ball on his head. I used the name but then could never find the pic to link to it.......oh well not worth changing again! 

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1 hour ago, LeBoeufsGolfBall said:

The rubbish username probably don’t help. It’s pointless without the picture

Relates to Wimbledon coming to the bridge and battering us 2-4 .Efan Ekoku and Marcus Gayle destroyed Frank LeBouef in one of his first games. He ended up with this massive lump the size of a golf ball on his head. I used the name but then could never find the pic to link to it.......oh well not worth changing again! 

Can't you just use your old Zoowraa picture to ease our transition? 

Wasn't it something like this or was that Khobar?

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