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hanuma   

Devil's advocate says;

**** Lens, without referring to Wikipedia the overwhelming majority of football supporters couldn't name a single one of their players. The smaller the club, the more self-interested, there is a food chain and they are in it. They have no business holding onto talent like Kakuta in the first place (or seemingly any proper legal documentation either), and it's still a lottery as to him being anything in the first place. So what if they keep him for a few extra years, they just get more money at a later date, and then can afford the sort of players they generally don't produce in their academy. And then what about 'youth development'? Another club takes their place in the food chain performing the same piddling role.

Get real.

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yugam   

Daniel Sturridge and Michael Mancienne play full 90 minutes for the England U21 in thier 2-1 win over Mzcedonia U21.

Jack Cork was a unused substitute in the match.

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Scapin   
The supposed element of morality here is such a load of bollocks.

Absolutely, this is all about legal technicalities. The idea that kids having the opportunity to move to clubs with better coaches and to potentially earn more money when they turn professional is morally wrong is as ridiculous as Blatter's "slave" comment. As is the idea that a 15 year old can be professionally contracted to any business.

But before we get into suggestions as to "what should be done", can we not have a very thorough explanation as to what the exact nature of the problem is. I personally don't see one. The game is bigger than ever, has more players than ever, is growing faster than ever. Tell me I'm wrong.

That's the curious thing. Football is getting richer and more popular globally, yet judging by the consistent "the end is nigh" street preacherish tone from FIFA and UEFA this is a bad thing (!). Leaving aside the anti-English conspiracy theories (which seem to be given more ammunition almost daily, but remain conspiracy theories), it just seems like the rather arbitrary football authorities don't like the idea that they're not in total control of what's going on. That's what they're worried about ultimately; that they might not be able to control it (the spectre of a potential break away European league etc.).

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Cameron   

Bruma, at only 17 recorded his first Holland U21 cap. A really impressive acheivement, but as someone who doesn't reguarly watch the youth squads at Chelsea, just how solid of a defender is he?

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Kal   
To reply to Juni's initial reply to my comment about football fan before chelsea fan.

I would like to know how much you would enjoy football as a whole if the quality of football decreased significantly. If competition didn't exist. If the rules became a farce. etc etc

I think it's tricky not to get easily blinded by Chelsea-love, but let's not forget the game is football, and its functionality is key to continuing to enjoy the sport.

If the rules changed such that it make like Gaelic football would you all still be huge Chelsea fans? I for one would turn to another sport.

That's why I think perspective is important.

The fine is ridiculous. The ban unprecendented. Something fishy is indeed going on.

But what rules exactly do you think FIFA should put in place to protect clubs like Lens, to ensure they continue to support the world of football in producing young talent that may end up at Chelsea, and increase our enjoyment of watching our club.

Unless you're happy with footballing talent pool drying up and watching what is left of it...

Never going to happen, because football is the most accessible sport across the world. Sorry, but you're not going to see poverty stricken Nigerian or Brazilian kids playing cricket or tennis on a multi-million person scale. It just won't happen.

Football is a primal, universal sport and I see it dominating the popularity market for many, many years to come.

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Juni   
Agree with Bruma and Kakuta, I think with 3 keepers already in the squad Woods should have taken the spot.

The B list is unlimited and players can be added at 24 hours notice, so no major issue there.

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ish   

the only thing I can think of is perhaps any1 under 18 moving on a free will automatically have a 20% of sell on put on the clause whilst 18-21 that is reduced to 5%. This would only apply if the player is moving on a free. This way it gives money back to a club if the player is sold on(most of them are) and this means that the club is actually rewarded for having a good youth set up, because if they find good 8 year olds and train them well till they 16 then a club like manU or chelsea comes and takes them but the player becomes only average and gets sold on for 5 million thats a million profit for the club, while if a player turns out great and gets sold on thats a much bigger pot. You could even include an appearance clause so lets say after 20 appearances in the first team the sell on clause goes up to 35% or the club can buy it out for a certain sum.

I guess the tricky thing is where do you stop. For instance kakuta came at 15, he was good but not great. But at chelsea he has improved his vision, strength, ability and has had better education then he would if he stayed at lens. What is more important those years from 8-14 or those years from 15-21? Sure chelsea took him when he was young but you could argue that chelsea's overall system has made him a better person and player than his formulative years at Lens.

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hanuma   

Could probably include that ridiculous article on the front page here too from Rowan. Another bleating session about how bad we look in the papers again. Spineless.

And in the papers; Patrick Barclays latest wank over the good of the game. Champagne socialist, half the time he's oohing and ahing over the fruits of Arsenal's colonialist transfer policy; hypocrite. And every single one of these wannabe moralists with their wonky compasses have attached themselves to this story. There's no substance to it at all.

The reason no significant alternative is being proposed is simple, because it would actually be even less morally correct and would probably be in breach of several human-rights laws; that being the enforced contract of young players to their first clubs.

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db12d1   
Bruma, at only 17 recorded his first Holland U21 cap.

It was his second, he played three weeks ago already.

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