Droy was my hero Report post Posted November 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bob Singleton said: No Ruud Gullit, and therefore no Zola and no Vialli either. Hoddle is an awful pundit, but having him as manager attracted one "super star" which attracted others afterwards. That led to FA Cups and a Cup Winners Cup, better and better managers, CL qualification and ultimately Abramovich buying the club That is certainly one viewpoint. But the other is we might have had a stronger team. As Bates used to point out we were 11th when Hoddle arrived and 11th when he left. The buy old stars to attract younger ones certainly turned out to be a good method. It wasn't just the names though, it was increasing money ploughed into the club (and the increasing returns). I'm not sure that Warnock couldn't have run it that way too. Maybe not. At the time I was hoping for Warnock and worried about Hoddle (who I though would bring hazard M with him - I was not a fan). I'm certain plenty could have done it better than Hoddle. (Again - I just don't think Warnock was as rubbish as some claim) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarefreeMuratcan Report post Posted November 7, 2021 56 minutes ago, Droy was my hero said: I'm not a fan, though I do wonder what might have happened if Bates had hired Warnock, as he had planned, instead of Hoddle all those years ago. I'm going go have nightmares about this alternate timeline. 14 minutes ago, Bob Singleton said: No Ruud Gullit, and therefore no Zola and no Vialli either. Hoddle is an awful pundit, but having him as manager attracted one "super star" which attracted others afterwards. That led to FA Cups and a Cup Winners Cup, better and better managers, CL qualification and ultimately Abramovich buying the club The real timeline is so lovely and comforting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueandproud Report post Posted November 8, 2021 21 hours ago, Droy was my hero said: That is certainly one viewpoint. But the other is we might have had a stronger team. As Bates used to point out we were 11th when Hoddle arrived and 11th when he left. The buy old stars to attract younger ones certainly turned out to be a good method. It wasn't just the names though, it was increasing money ploughed into the club (and the increasing returns). I'm not sure that Warnock couldn't have run it that way too. Maybe not. At the time I was hoping for Warnock and worried about Hoddle (who I though would bring hazard M with him - I was not a fan). I'm certain plenty could have done it better than Hoddle. (Again - I just don't think Warnock was as rubbish as some claim) If we got him in 19901, we woild have gone down, he woild have brought alehouse football to the club, and signed crappy players like the ones he had at Notts County. I had no sympathy for him when Sheff U went down, and QPR and Palace correctly sacked hom for being shite, otherwise he would have taken them down as well. Hoddle wasn't great, but I'd have over Warnock any day. Warnock may not be as rubbish as some claim but he also not as good as his apologists and fanboys think he is either. He's just a Northern version of Dave Bassett, and I couldn't stand him either back in the day. Chris Wilder, however, if backed and given time will turn Boro around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everyonesallowedanopinion Report post Posted May 7 Talking of corrupt, Northampton robbed of automatic promotion, Northampton won away at Barrow, BUT Brisol Rovers needed to win by 7 goals, Scunthorpe who were already relegated out of the football league, decided to field a team of kids and lost 7-0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Backbiter Report post Posted May 7 20 minutes ago, Everyonesallowedanopinion said: Talking of corrupt, Northampton robbed of automatic promotion, Northampton won away at Barrow, BUT Brisol Rovers needed to win by 7 goals, Scunthorpe who were already relegated out of the football league, decided to field a team of kids and lost 7-0 Shades of Argentina in 1978. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everyonesallowedanopinion Report post Posted May 7 9 minutes ago, Backbiter said: Shades of Argentina in 1978. Yes I remember that Peru 6-0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueandproud Report post Posted May 8 On 07/05/2022 at 5:38 PM, Everyonesallowedanopinion said: Talking of corrupt, Northampton robbed of automatic promotion, Northampton won away at Barrow, BUT Brisol Rovers needed to win by 7 goals, Scunthorpe who were already relegated out of the football league, decided to field a team of kids and lost 7-0 Not only that, Bristol Rovers are managed by the odious Joey Barton as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueandproud Report post Posted May 8 Fulham and Bournemouth up, hope Sheff U fail though, nothing against them , it just gets boring when the same old team see saw between the divisions. Huddersfield a surprise package after a 3 year absence, Nottingham Forest and Luton have both been out of top flight football for ages, and I'm tipping Forest to make it via the play-offs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueandproud Report post Posted May 18 Forest & Huddersfield in the final Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sciatika Report post Posted May 29 Levi Colwill is starting and Tino Anjorin is on the bench for Huddersfield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
