thevelourfog

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  1. European Super League

    My impression, too. I can't see, even putting aside the threats made by the various authorities, that the current plans are practicable. The PR also seems pretty hastily cobbled together. And it comes just as UEFA were about to formalise their own bonkers CL changes. My guess is that those CL changes get put to the side and this Super League happens in the next few years, but seemingly run by a much-changed UEFA under CL branding. I'm a little surprised by how strong some of the reactions have been. The CL is already basically a closed shop, with the same small pool of teams making the last 8 and winning it every year. The last time we had a small/surprise winner was 17 years ago, and in my life time I can think of only one other winner who wasn't one of the Europe's biggest 8 or so clubs at that time (Dortmund in, I think, 1997). In some senses this format won't change what happens in reality, it will just put that in writing. But even so, I do feel strongly against the idea of limiting involvement from non-SL clubs who perform and achieve well in single domestic league seasons. I think this exposes how far away more "traditional" fans (so match-goers from London born pre-1990s or so) have been from the club for some time now, rather than opening up a new distance. That does sting a bit. It probably would play a role in me drifting away, not in anger but indifference.
  2. Chelsea 1 Manchester City 0

    Curious given this is the most "live" thread right now ... Any discussion on the Super League rumours (that appear to have real substance given UEFA's comment) elsewhere on the forum? Huge, club-altering implications, for us but haven't seen any chat elsewhere and am curious to know other people's thoughts.
  3. Chelsea 1 Manchester City 0

    So bizarre to think Rudiger wasn't playing as recently as January. Such a solid performance, dead pleased.
  4. Chelsea 1 Manchester City 0

    We've been much, much more solid since he came back into the team. Strange take. The James challenge is a yellow, but it's infuriating that was the moment Dean decided enough time had passed for to get the cards out. Fernandinho has clearly been told to rough Mount up, and he'll continue to do it until it's not safe for him to not do it. I don't even blame the player, it's the ref being a prat.
  5. Chelsea 1 Manchester City 0

    Any manager appointed when Lampard was most likely would have. Tuchel was appointed 20 months later to work in very different circumstances. Not sure how him not picking Abraham now (while continuing to pick the other three) makes the point you seem to be trying to make. I like Abraham and certainly would have played him more often, if available, than Tuchel has. It is obvious though where we need to buy this summer, and I suspect as obvious to Abraham.
  6. Champions League 2020/21

    Nicolas Anelka will be happy with this last 4 ...
  7. Chelsea 0 Porto 1 (2 - 1 on aggregate)

    At those prices the chances of Haaland joining anyone are, this summer at least, completely non-existent. If he goes it will be for a fee we could compete with imo, and it will be for other reasons we are not his choice.
  8. Chelsea 0 Porto 1 (2 - 1 on aggregate)

    Disappointing to lose because it always is, but goes to show the importance of the first steady result and performance. I do wonder what the plan would have been had that freak goal happened even 10 minutes earlier, mind. I'd have liked to see us give just a little more in terms of attacking. Feels strange how strange it feels to be back in the CL semi finals! Felt very much a minimum expectation for a good while and now we've gone 7 years without one.
  9. FC Porto 0 Chelsea 2

    Fair point; I do want us, for want of a better way of putting it, forcing the issue a bit more with lesser league opponents who might be happy to wait out patient and solid. But even then it's a strategy I think I'd better than many others.
  10. FC Porto 0 Chelsea 2

    Yes, but even then our goals came from mistakes that, had we made, would have this thread already on a dozen more pages of replies than it is. Because mistakes happen, and they happen even with good players playing otherwise well. It doesn't make for great viewing, but it is why being patient and solid most often pays off and is generally a good idea. Last night was the right way to set up for the result.
  11. FC Porto 0 Chelsea 2

    He didn't actually get off the coach; he felt a slight twinge when sitting up, so he's keeping the driver company. I wonder how fit Abraham is, I'd like to see him get some minutes.
  12. Official: Chelsea Sign Christian Pulisic

    The reasons are obvious. One is that the academy boys didn't cost £60m, and whether or not you like that or think it's fair those sorts of sums bring expectations. Another is that the academy boys too often get a ridiculous amount of leeway that I'm not sure it'd be a good idea to extend to others. Perhaps the most damning reason, though, is that the academy boys currently in the first team have simply outperformed him over the course, to a man, since he arrived. Perhaps the leeway comes from a bias, but even so it would be coincidentally earned. I'd agree Pulisic had a period where he played sensationally well. I'd also agree, though, with anyone saying that period was fairly short-lived, and he's spent more time either injured or looking pretty poor. I don't much more basis for an argument that he'll come good than there is for one saying this is about as good as it gets.
  13. FC Porto 0 Chelsea 2

    0.1 and 0.2 ahead of players who managed 45 minutes. I'd probably agree that we had much, much worse performers on Saturday but I'm not sure Chelsea's MotM as they lost 5-2 at home to a relegation battler is the most glowing endorsement! I have absolutely no idea how Porto play, so even less of an idea of what the best starting XI and approach for us should be.
  14. FC Porto 0 Chelsea 2

    It'd be helpful if they did!
  15. Official: Chelsea Sign Christian Pulisic

    Unfortunately the limitation seems to be "running".
  16. Chelsea 2 West Bromwich Albion 5

    It's unfortunate Arsenal and Liverpool had each other. Perhaps games after international breaks really are just more hard and tricky than we give them credit for.
  17. Chelsea 2 West Bromwich Albion 5

    Makes my point even more. One team did collapse and it didn't really help us, because another 4 or 5 didn't. Getting into a bun fight in the first place with so many teams we should be well clear of was the screw-up.
  18. Chelsea 2 West Bromwich Albion 5

    This is the thing, though. What you are calling "resting" may be not be resting (that is, saving players for other games) at all. It may well be that those players were not in a state to start or play an hour. And what you or I think about that is irrelevant compared to what the coaching staff know. What would be taking West Brom less seriously; changes to a more usual XI, or playing the usual XI even if out of puff? I was fuming when Mount started for England vs Poland in mid-week. I doubt the best remedy for that would have been starting him in our next game, whoever it was against. Maybe they could have all played and Tuchel has messed up here. Personally seems the less likely of the possible explanations to me.
  19. Chelsea 2 West Bromwich Albion 5

    This seems a confused and confusing position to me. You aren't "buying" that a top 4 finish will be difficult, but also we have "far too many" players who aren't consistent. Are we so good that we should should finishing top 4, or not consistent enough to do it? Make a choice. The Chelsea I saw in December wasn't one I had any faith was going to win enough points over the remaining 20-odd games to beat off all of Utd, Leicester, Everton, Spurs and West Ham. Two of them we're now far enough behind that I'd be surprised if anyone here expects us to overhaul them, but in fairness one of their number's has been made up by Liverpool collapsing. If at that time you saw differently (us significantly improving, none of the others doing the same, most of them deteriorating) then fine, but feel free to say so. The idea I've "brushed off" this defeat is yours, not mine. This is damaging. I just think the far more significant damage was done a long while ago. We perform at even just par in the first 4 months of the season and an embarrassing defeat immediately after an international break can be tolerated in the scheme of things. The exact reason it cannot be tolerated is that earlier results have left us in a weak, vulnerable position.
  20. Chelsea 2 West Bromwich Albion 5

    Surely it's because Rudiger, Christensen, Mount, Havertz and Giroud have all just been playing with their national teams? The idea they were left out as a result of hubris rather than sheer physical necessity is a bit of a leap imo.
  21. Chelsea 2 West Bromwich Albion 5

    I don't disagree, but then I said he had the sort of game that gets other keeper's crucified, not that he was at fault for all the goals.
  22. Chelsea 2 West Bromwich Albion 5

    Top 4 was always going to be very, very difficult. I'm on record as thinking it was gone in December. I think Tuchel has done brilliantly to get us in a position where we look like at least making a fist of it. That we might duke it out until those last 4 games is a minor miracle. A real humbling today. Made two or three stupid but in isolation forgivable errors, but crumbled from them up against a side with little to lose and who saw and threw everything at their moment. Credit to West Brom. I think I'd be much angrier at the ref, who really was very poor, if he hadn't managed to have (even with his multiple errors) a better day at the office than about 5 of our players. Jorginho is the obvious person to point the finger at in that he made errors directly leading to bookings that swung the game, but Zouma really was very poor throughout and Mendy had the sort of game that gets other keepers crucified.
  23. Chelsea 2 West Bromwich Albion 5

    Was it an option to decline the Manager of the Month award? Hate to pile on to anyone, but Zouma has been awful. Had a real hand in all three goals without doing anything outwardly comical. Understand why a new manager gives everyone chances but the might just need to come to a stop with certain positions.
  24. Chelsea 2 West Bromwich Albion 5

    Yes, I can imagine not bothering to try and win the ball would have gone without comment on CFCnet. He has no choice but to try and win the ball, and messes up in the process. Odd that when Jorginho is responsible for putting Silva in that position, the fault lies with Jorginho, but that when someone else puts Jorginho in that position, it is still Jorginho's fault. The bloke's having a shocker without having to make stuff up. No one's disagreeing he's been sh*te.
  25. Chelsea 2 West Bromwich Albion 5

    Been said elsewhere, but that was completely and utterly Reece James's doing. The two hospital passes, I'll give you. The fact he made them is exactly why there's no need to pretend the header was his fault. Zouma and Mendy both infuriating for the first, Zouma not much cop for the second either. Why is he back in the team? No real issues with him but we'd looked much better with him out. A long second half coming up. If Mount can play, he has to come out for it. Not even for a result, but just to not fall apart.