thevelourfog

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  1. We fired him ... Then he couldn't work for ages and missed out on the job he wanted and had been flirting with ... And now he manages Inter, who most in world football would consider a step down in current prestige from both the job he lost and the job he lost out on. If spite was the objective, you'd have to say objective achieved. He's still a good coach, mind, so (unfortunately? Idk, I don't hugely care what he goes on to do) that spite will only go so far. Perhaps only until May. Something quite comfortable about not posting much for a a while and then popping back straight into a Conte argument. You never have to worry you missed anything!
  2. Leeds United 0 Chelsea 0

    I don't think anyone disagrees with the sentiment that we should be better than just about good enough. It's a question of what we can realistically expect, though, when the coaching staff and the coaching/training set up completely changes mid-season. My point stands; the percentages football that got results everyone was happy with (I'm sure you were happy with the Sheffield Utd result if not performance, but I am including even Atletico, Spurs, Liverpool and Everton here) is the same as the percentages football that's got drab draws against Leeds, Wolves and Southampton. You only have to look at our form and the table since the start of February to see that percentages football is, although dull, the best bet for salvaging something from this season. Trying really hard to win was often exactly why we lost so many under Lampard. I think there's evidence we're edging towards a better balance but clearly we haven't achieved it just yet.
  3. Leeds United 0 Chelsea 0

    Seen only highlights, but don't think we were much, if at all, worse than other Tuchel games that we've been all happy with. We're playing a low risk, percentages style of football in which just one goal makes all the difference. I doubt it's the longer term plan, but it's exactly what has got us into 4th place so seems pointless to me to complain about it now. I do bloody well wish we'd stuffed them, mind.
  4. Chelsea 2 Everton 0

    Wasn't in from work in time for the first half, but very satisfied by that second half. We'd all like to see more goals, but we were completely in control. Really pleasing to see us confidently passing out of the back, pressing and dropping off as a collective, and quickly passing into spaces and areas knowing a player will be there or running there. We are going to be a serious force next season.
  5. This ... ... was based on bits and pieces I'd paid attention to, but I'm told by a Villa supporting friend that he's been pretty rubbish overall; overplaying, losing the ball, getting injured when a gust of wind hits. I'd like to disbelieve and stick with what I said a month ago, but it just sounds too plausible.
  6. Transfer Talk Topic

    No; the tedious thing about this argument is that there isn't an objective "correct" take but that you can use the available data to suit what you're saying. It's an argument about how inside and inside forward can be before they're so inside they're a centre forward, ffs. For what it's worth, I had thought the whole point of signing Werner had been he could play in multiple positions ...
  7. Liverpool 0 Chelsea 1

    I think the written law broadly is (although maybe your head can also be offside ... Which reads very oddly said like that!). It's the application that needs changing. Last night was a particularly egregious example of this kind of VAR decision, but it was just another in a long line made this season for and against various teams. For me it's a matter of remembering why we have an offside rule; what possible advantage does a potential goalscorer have over a defender if they are a negligible, humanly imperceptible distance ahead of them*? And if the answer is none (and it is), why do we need to legislate against it? *Aware the consensus for this specific example is that Werner wasn't actually ahead of Robertson, but I think they key to not making bad decisions like this is just not second-guessing them. If it's not completely clear, let it go.
  8. Liverpool 0 Chelsea 1

    lol, imagine losing 4 on the bounce at home and not beating Chelsea. Really good performance, great result.
  9. Liverpool 0 Chelsea 1

    Disappointment of the VAR decision and even Mount's goal aside, a really good half imo. We've clearly studied how Liverpool play and been drilled all week to play against that specifically. Bodes really well for the future.
  10. Liverpool 0 Chelsea 1

    Was about to say, they're leaving it very late to rule this one out ...
  11. Liverpool 0 Chelsea 1

    I'll be honest, I have no idea what the rules even say any more. It's just that decision has been made consistently all season, haven't seen any goal scored in similar circumstances allowed. I think they should be and that VAR should be used for it's intended, advertised purpose only, but that went out of the window almost immediately after being introduced.
  12. Liverpool 0 Chelsea 1

    ... So definitely off by modern VAR standards, then? I agree, it's ridiculous how many goals are ruled out because a body part you can't score with is inches beyond the last defender. Happening every week and it was never a mess that needed cleaning up.
  13. Liverpool 0 Chelsea 1

    Didn't even bother celebrating, did anyone think anything different would happen? Definitely offside by modern VAR standards, just don't know why we need to have modern VAR standards applied.
  14. Liverpool 0 Chelsea 1

    Bizarre post. Take away 3 of their 4 best players and they're less good, sure. But to my eye they look like they've got pretty much 9 of their usual starters.
  15. Liverpool 0 Chelsea 1

    Who are all the free-scoring players we've left out?!
  16. Transfer Talk Topic

    Snipped down to save repetition ... The projection was all the amortisation chat. Higuain was a short term loan. Whatever we paid to get him here and whatever we paid him was our outlay. That's all. The rest is bookkeeping, and Higuain had nowt to do with 19/20's bookkeeping. As for what we paid ... I say neither of us know, you say stuff was widely reported in the tabloids. I think that means we agree.
  17. Liverpool 0 Chelsea 1

    My recollection of last season's Anfield game we committed players forward quite a lot in the first 15-20 minutes, and that Liverpool sat back for that time. Then the minute they pressed, literally the first time they did, we had too many men forward and they scored. And then scored a few more quickly after while our heads were spinning. Had we scored in those 15-20 minutes, it would have been a different story. But we didn't, didn't even come close. I'd feel better about going at it from kick off if I thought only about Liverpool's makeshift defence, but unfortunately I've not got huge faith in our attacking play. I think we need to score first. Just that we don't need to take huge risks early on to do it.
  18. Liverpool 0 Chelsea 1

    Klopp seems a big fan of the rope-a-dope against us (perhaps against everyone) and we have consistently fallen for it. I'd say don't go at them from the start. It's what they will want, and how they did us 5-3 last season. This is, imo, actually the right kind of fixture to play very safe initially.
  19. Season expectations/predictions/peculiarities 2020/21

    I don't know that 75 points will be necessary for top 4 but it won't be far off so won't nitpick. It's a huge ask. I can't say I see a 7 game winning streak in our immediate future!
  20. Transfer Talk Topic

    This is football finance blog stuff gone mad. I don't know what the figures were (and neither do you), but we most likely paid some sort of fee to get him and some or all of his wages. Maybe just one of those, for all we know the fee is precisely for covering wages. And we paid it for the time he was here, not the season after as well. That's what we laid out, not some crazed algebraic projection. I wonder if, perhaps, a loan deal for Higuain was made because buying a better player outright wasn't doable? Rather than loaning Higuain got in the way of buying a better player? I know which of the two seems the more likely to me. (Higuain was pretty crap overall)
  21. Liverpool 0 Chelsea 1

    Four straight home defeats, is it? Interesting...
  22. Chelsea 0 Manchester United 0

    Watched the game on mute as I was in Zoom with some mates, and didn't listen to or read any press last night. Hadn't myself given it a second thought; Greenwood clearly hits that ball with his arm just as he and Hudson-Odoi started tussling for it. A nothing incident, turned into something in retrospect just for something to write/talk about imo.
  23. Chelsea 0 Manchester United 0

    Yes, I don't think it was a dreadful performance at all. A dreadful watch, sure. But they aren't the same thing. I do think we purposefully play very low risk football. It isn't simply the standard of the attacking players. It is that we are not really dedicating our energies to attacking.
  24. Chelsea 0 Manchester United 0

    For avoidance of doubt, I'm very happy for it to be against Man U!
  25. Chelsea 0 Manchester United 0

    Well, yes and no. We're playing catch-up in trying to manage a bare-minimum expectation after a poor first half to the season, so there's not really any games we can afford poor results in. This isn't any different in that respect. And the table already is congested, and will be staying that way right through until game 38. I think we need to stop thinking about the table right now and where the next set of results could leave us. It doesn't matter. Plenty of sides are in a position where one win leaves them feeling they are in contention and one defeat plummets them into midtable. What matters is what kind of form can be expected across a series of games. A win today doesn't really bring us significantly closer to finishing top 4 and a defeat doesn't close it off. I think a win is more important for morale and sending a message than it is for the result tbh.